Looking for waterproof printing setting (PETG) G1/2" fittings

No problem!! :+1: :slightly_smiling_face: I’m just an intense sort of guy and wanted to make a point. My apologies back for losing it. :innocent: I know you’re trying things suggested.

Good, it should help, but sometimes the built in settings are very close to perfect, BL did a pretty good job settings them up.

BTW - VERY important! Be sure you uncheck the Flow Calibration box when sending the Calibration prints to the printer!! You don’t want the auto Flow adjustment fighting with the tests, a very subtle thing to miss.

–OK, that’s odd. I just got the “Access Denied” when posting a Pic also. The weird thing is I just did it fine on another post!! Forum problems.

So this is the box that pops up with the check boxes when you send a print. OK? Untick Flow Calibration or you get wrong results!!

Same problem I just had but it worked for me 3 minutes ago. Strange. Not you.
Cheers!!

I have now gone through the calibration test.

But I would really say that version 0 is the best for me. At least from the surface. What is then with numbers there I have actually visibly more gaps than in the test print itself. But you have that in the instructions for it too?

Especially the prints shown in the description are really bad examples. They all look bad to me.

But with my best surface 0 I find that in the top pattern minimal löchlein are present. But only at the bottom of the wall. Accordingly, I have decided for the time being for the 10, where this is not so. But here you can see over extrusion.

So from the surface 0 is the best, but in my opinion I have very small holes, but only in the top layer. I would have decided for version 10, because the second calibration test follows Here it is even more difficult. I can hardly decide for one.

I would like to show this, but I can’t upload any pictures at the moment.

Kind regards
DrCarbon

And of course i have turned off the auto flow calibration.

Thanks for the hint.

Excellent!

It is rather tricky to read the results. I realized in discussing this with someone else that I need to do a post for everyone with some tips of how to interpret the tests, as it’s very hard to see what to look for but once you do it’s obvious! :wink:

I can’t do it right now, but I hope by later today or tomorrow AM (East Coast US) I can do it.

There is a problem with the Forum right now with that for everyone. I was able to post two pictures earlier and 3 minutes later it was “Access Denied”.

We will speak later! Cheers!

Just a qick question. Carbon X1 use Bowden Extruder with AMS?

Thanks.

Kind regards
DrCarbon

Tip: Also only look at the center spot of the top surface when doing the flow rate test some people look at the whole top layer surface area and will get the flow setting wrong.

Find the baby butt one :joy:

The Bambu Lab X1 has a direct drive extruder this is what you use for retraction settings.

The AMS has a internal filament extruder to the Bambu Lab X1

Can you tell me please where exactly?

Will not let me upload a photo but say you put a nickel in the center of the red circle area that’s the area you want to zone into.

Flow rate

What was your flow setting you started off with for petg ?

My standard was 0.95. I thought the result was great in the calibration, but the small holes at the edge bothered me a bit. Therefore, I have corrected to 0.98.

Kind Regards
DrCarbon

Yes it take some testing to see the changes you will get better at it even some times you don’t even need to do test 2

Now some guys like this and some guys don’t but if you want to get a quick flow rate base target this works just put the numbers in the flow rate calculator from a single wall test print.

Basic Flow Calculator

Flow Rate Calculator

Advance Flow Calculator = Click on Flow Rate Tab

Flow Rate Calculator

Then you can fine tune the flow rate using the flat surface test prints.

Picture upload works again.

Temperature Check.


Flow Check1

Flow Check2

Max Volume test

What is the result of this test? What settings should I apply? There was last a value of 200 set in the material profile. Which seems very high to me. How should the test be read and evaluated?

Kind regards
DrCarbon

Those are going to be hard for the rest of use to judge because we can’t really see any detail.

Do another temp tower from 285 down to 250. I have read a lot of people are having better results at higher temps with the speed. Also a cooling factor, especially with overhangs, increase part cooling and turn off aux cooling - [SOLVED] Bad quality when printing PETG - #243 by djeZo888 This link to a recent post in that thread explains it.

There should be documentation on how to interpret the wavy line one (VFA I think). I have not had a chance to run mine yet.

Because of the lack of documentation, I did the max volume test based on this model: Printables

But I think, the results for the OrcaSlicer max volume test are to interpret in the same way. So you need the replace the values (start, end, step) and meassure / calculate the max volume like in the link.

Hi,

what exactly does determining the maximum print volume do for me?

I am very satisfied with my print quality so far.

Thanks

Kind regards
DrCarbon

Good Day, my Friend!

I posted a long post yesterday (I’m sure you’re surprised it was long, LOL) on Calibration. I mentioned to you I was doing that, it’s mostly done.

It’s not finished since I was very tired and couldn’t post the pictures due to an error in the Forum (now fixed).

It’s meant to help everyone understand the Calibration process better. One thing that I have to finish is the Max Volume test. SoftFever didn’t cover it in the Wiki.

I have a text description done, you might read that, but I didn’t have a good picture of the markers on the end. Your pic is excellent, do you mind if I use it in my post?
The post is here:

@3DTech and @Sticks are giving you great advice, glad to see you moving along!

On the Max Volume test - Those lines on the end help you count. Every large marker is 5mm/sec3. But I’d recommend you read my instruction in that post. You should really start at a higher and end at higher values.

The 200mm/sec3 you see listed is the settings just for the test, to remove any possible limits, you can’t print even close to that value.

It’s very important you don’t change any values when doing a test!!
You also must start a New Project for each test and ‘Discard’ and settings. The tests are predefined for all settings.

It’s also obvious, but easy to forget, that you must save the settings to the Filament Profile once you find the new value! So you end up saving repeatedly. I gave some tips for naming you might read.

I must admit I twice forgot to do the save step in my hurry to do the next test! :person_facepalming:

What’s your current Max Flow Rate value?

what exactly does determining the maximum print volume do for me?

When you want to find out the max output your hot end can do with that filament then you would drop 10% of that number to be a safe setting of the max volumetric speed.

But lets just say it will go up to 18mm/s with your current petg filament and it all looks good but the thing with petg filaments is it’s not a speed friendly filament and you can get weak layer bonding so you might put it to lets say 14mm/s max volumetric speed for the current filament to have good layer bonding you can also tweak temps and cooling you just have to find the happy spot for your petg filament.

So you can use the 14mm/s volumetric speed to not allow the print speed to go over 172.0 when the nozzle line width is @ 0.45

I hope this explains the ways it can be used I will even sometimes drop the volumetric speed to say 6mm/s if I want to slow my print speed down for a part and not change the speed setting in my process profile.

PRINT JOB CALCULATOR

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Hi, you are welcome to use my pictures for illustration.

I haven’t changed anything in the max flow rate yet, because everything looked good in the test. I think the goal is to pick the line that is getting worse and take the next lower value.

Because the test with me as I see no annomalien shows I have adjusted so far nothing. But as you say. If I start with a higher value and go even higher, I will probably see changes at some point.

greetings
DrCarbon

Hi,

ok that sounds plausible.

So in principle, the maximum possible speed is very strongly braked by this value or not. So the test makes sense in this respect, because it allows you to obtain the maximum speed while maintaining the same quality. If one now disregards the strength of the layer adhesion.

Kind regards
DrCarbon

The current Value:

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Now you have to help me with the evaluation, please. Where is my result now? How do I read off the correct value?

Kind Regards
DrCarbon