I agree with you. Even if this model could be considered as a 2d model, it’s by no means low effort model.
The fact that it is customizable should count in the equation of the high quality standard.
It’s basically a mini tool like some we can find on the Maker Labs.
Those kind of projects are really an asset for the platform. And the fact that is was use at least 2600+ times proves it.
The download numbers can be an obstacle to uploading a really spectacular model as an “exclusive” at MW if I have no other models there. MW should introduce a manual check for designers who cannot overcome the download limit, but this should also be available to all other users.
Well, bless your heart. How delightfully condescending.
Yes, I agree. I am seeing this a lot on this forum across many topics.
There are a handful of ‘regulars’ that live and breathe makerworld and believe it should be their way.
I’m glad I didn’t jump on the exclusive bandwagon. Thought about it but too many questions.
Thing is, there’s at least one other manufacturer about to sell a very similar printer to the Bambu - multicolor with automated filament loading and unloading, etc. They have a 3D model repository for their users too but I didn’t see anything about rewards yet. Maybe they will, won’t or already do? Don’t know.
I suspect Bambu’s exclusive program is ultimately meant to stop models from being uploaded to the other manufacturer’s repository. That’s what exclusives are.
People here have lots of experience now with multicolor models of all types. We are a valuable resource that for very low cost generate amazing value for Bambu. I think Bambu realizes that and decided to attempt to velvet glove us into exclusivity here. Not that there is anything wrong with that but the exclusive program can only have one purpose - to keep models out of other company’s repositories for their customers.
Not that it matters but I create things because I enjoy it and want to share those creations - not keep them tucked away for the benefit of just one company. Bambu was the only game in town but that is changing.
If other manufacturers do rewards to populate their repositories with appropriate models to encourage sales of their printers, if they are on a par with those here, we stand to benefit by multiples of the rewards here - not just 25% more to be exclusive.
That’s just one reason to stay unencumbered.
In addition to being able to grab public domain files from months/years before and reupload them here (using the pictures from elsewhere as well which already violates guidelines here ) you can now enter them in the exclusive program!
They must be backed up on reports. I self reported to have one of the models I made exclusive removed from the program last night and this morning got a message that basicly said “thanks, we’ll get to it when we get to it”
There is another problem with models. Look at the number of prints. If someone prints your model with 10 plates completely, you will get 1 print counted if everything goes well. Now I can only guess how many plates were printed from the model. Possibly only a first printout after a print of a plate of the model has been started. In addition, not every print is counted anyway for various reasons. It does not matter whether you have marked it as an exclusive model. So it is better to create a model on just one print plate so that every plate is counted. And as some users have already pointed out, the download numbers are also incorrect because not all downloads are counted. This is causing me to delete models at the moment because the numbers are low (not because the models are bad). It also makes me think about publishing models differently than before on Makerworld or thinking about publishing them somewhere else.
I suggest redeeming them ASAP.
I just checked out the Exclusive Models and tried some filters. It’s astonishing how the Exclusive Models that are truly eye-catching due to their size and complexity are hardly, if at all, discoverable among the multitude of other models. And the other models are the kind you see everywhere anyway. It feels more like a toy store, like when I go to our discount store and look at the shelves; today there were many similar items at low prices.
So I don’t want to cause a commotion, but in my opinion, the Exclusive program has failed at the moment. When I look at the exclusive models, it’s disappointing. Too bad, for a brief moment I thought Makerworld was aiming for something else, also because the description in the wiki suggested this to me.
Great idea but a really rushed and botched rollout. The lack of clear guidelines and the forced error of requiring models to be excluded after the fact, and then compounding it by not still awarding points models would have gathered outside the program has only caused problems.
It is a good program for those who want the extra points and also good for Bambu to try to turn Makerworld into a higher quality repository with exclusive models.
But Bambu could still turn this into the go-to place for models if they would just police out the junk some post to scam the system. The junk hides the good stuff and discourages the very thing Bambu is ham-handedly trying to do with exclusives. It’s almost like they are abandoning the glut models to sink in the quicksand (and take legitimate models with them) and using it as an opportunity to provide a parallel exclusive catalog but didn’t police that either.
There’s an executive somewhere either getting deservedly spanked or hopefully soon to be spanked over what has happened to MakerWorld. It’s still very good and they seem to be trying to get rid of some of the spam, but uneven enforcement and lack of initial screening is getting them in trouble.
These are management issues. Same with tape on spools. I’d rather see them straighten up. They aren’t the only game in town any more. They need to understand that.
also because the description in the wiki suggested this to me.
I wonder how many people actually read the Wiki before making their models exclusive. I’d guess less than 5%. They’ve only just now added a link to the Wiki next to the checkbox—before, it was just the agreement.
I do believe MakerWorld recognizes that the rollout wasn’t handled in the best way, and they seem to be making improvements, like the change I mentioned. The transition to boosts was similar—most people had no idea what a boost was or how to use it at first, but over time, MakerWorld refined the system, and now it works well. My guess is that they’re now preparing everything for a more successful re-launch. I just hope it won’t be the creators who end up paying the price for the poorly executed first launch.
@MZip Well said
Well I asked to be let out.
Nope.
I only disagree with you on one point: the way I see it, the boost numbers grow with the download numbers. And the more downloads models achieve in a short time, the more likely you are to be recommended on Makerworld. The more you are recommended and have unique predicates visible (over which you may have no influence), the more downloads you will receive. On the positive side, however, I see that users can use the boosts to express when they like something or recognise its high quality.
Are you a political prisoner now?
A great belief.
Let down by reality.
Well I asked to be let out.
Nope.
I did too, I also reported my own models in an attempt to accelarate the process. I would rather be out now than to be kicked in 2 months along with all my points. But they have not replied which tells me they might be working on a reset, it has been almost 2 days since I opened the case. @johnfcooley did you get a response from MakerWorld?
@KanneKaffe I’m not sure if I fully understood your point. Are you suggesting that the boosts haven’t addressed the issue of high-quality, complex models—ones that take more effort to create but still count as just one download, the same as simpler models? If so, I agree with you. I also don’t think the boosts have fully resolved the problem as intended, and they tend to grow more or less in line with downloads. My point was that the system works much better now than it did before, back when many people didn’t even know what a boost was or how to use it. I have similar hopes for the exclusive program—it will hopefully improve over time. It’s just unfortunate that it had to start off like this
I think Makerworld should now enable the Exclusive switch for a limited time to allow users to flip this switch when editing their model content. In other words, no longer mark their models as exclusive. You should leave the added value up to 50 points achieved through exclusivity (not beyond that) to the users as a thank you for contributing and to improve the new Exclusive Programm.
Short of a full reset, I agree that might be the best way to go about it. First, be very clear about what is ineligible for the program and then let people remove their models if they believe they don’t meet the requirements. This is certainly better than having the MakerWorld team review and remove them all manually one by one.
It still leaves a few things to resolve. For instance, if you’re not sure if your model qualifies, what do you do? open a case?
I like that. Conforms with my non-conformity.