Models continue to earn exclusive points on the CN site after their exclusive status has been withdrawn.
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Models continue to earn exclusive points on the CN site after their exclusive status has been withdrawn.
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Well we can all go home now. The āreal designersā have spoken and your quality of models isnāt and hasnāt been up to snuff, so take your printer and go home. They have spoken.
Here we go again.
Confusing unique with exclusive. And Gatekeeping.
The clip aside, Iām not discussing another users model, especially when that user is taking part in the forum.
I have to ask you guys. When were you designated to decide what does and doesnāt belong in the program? I couldnāt give you two small toddler diapers what your qualifications are for a freaking HOBBY.
When this frist dropped A LOT of what isnāt wanted was not stated, and was not stated clearly. People such as myself jumped in to take advantage of the opportunity to be apart of it and to gain points. No one can fault that. Not even a toddler.
BL finally makes a statement regarding what they want. Fantastic. This eliminated a lot of the models that were intitally entered. Now, not only are they penalized by MW when theyāre removed, we have āexpertsā on the forum throwing stones. Tell me, who is the toddler?
Maybe only those so versed in design should ever upload anything. That way there wonāt be others to whom they can look down their noses at so they can feel superior.
I appreciate the response though. I would have taken it as a different opinion until the very second insults were leveled in a holier than thou attitude.
My ignore list grows by the day. That was really uncalled for.
The QR Code creator I made has been restored into the program,
After careful review, we have reinstated the model āPremium QR Code Sign & Keyring Parametric Creatorā and the corresponding exclusive points.
I can only assume this means no careful thought was involved in its prior removal.
Well thatās good.
Iām still waiting to be removed. Iāve asked 4 times now.
Iāll lose my head if I end up losing points because of inaction. Iām perfectly fine with not being eligible, just not fine with eventually being punished for it.
Thatās the worst part. Nothing compares in terms of ābadā in this program. Punishing people essentially beta-testing the program is inexcusable imho and all points lost should be restored (converted to ānormalā points)
@MakerWorld One thing is for sure, this has divided the user base, at least here. Itās clear now how some look down on others because they believe their models are superior.
Iām at the point where I am seriously considering just pulling models or not doing another thing. This isnāt a place where people should be divided. Itās a hobby. Now that real money is involved itās going to get worse.
Thinking about it, Iāll say it now. In a week I will pull all my models (maybe take them private) if something isnāt done. Points donāt mean that much to me, and it isnāt fun at the moment. Really starting to hate MakerWorld.
You can always just post in the regular models section if your models donāt fit in the exclusives. Thereās another color printer about to or already hitting and they will need color models for their platform but havenāt heard about rewards/points but they may end up having to mirror Bambuās program to attract models to their platform. Who knows?
I may look at other platforms. Here though I think Iāll just stop.
Clearly thereās a disconnect between whatās wanted and whatās communicated, as well as the bad taste some users have left. Iām not punishing BL, wouldnāt notice if I did. I just donāt think I want to be a part of MW anymore.
The guidelines are so vague that any decision can be justified. Looking at the models I mentioned in my sarcastic message, can you honestly say two of them are more original than the other two? I couldnāt, even if my life depended on it. Luckily, my situation is resolved, but as I mentioned, there are 67 of us here, and thousands of creators out there are unaware of the risks. So, Iāll say it again:
Until the eligibility rules and guidelines are clear, please allow everyone the option to leave the program with just the 25% penalty.
Donāt let the situation get you down. Letās give them time to make the right decision and keep our message clear. Iāll continue speaking up for you and any other creator in the same situation until they do whatās fair.
Letās not exaggerate. There is no other platform that gives such rich rewards to its users. Even my lousy models generated thousands of dollars.
Tell me where else you could get $$$ gift cards for such models.
Eh, that did entice me at first. Especially with the SW stands I created, it was both fun and it gained points. I started to learn the software needed to do more. That fun has gone away. I have an idea for the stands that I quickly lose interest in once I start, and I have another idea I have to learn a bit more to make. Almost ready to give it to someone else.
Fact is, this isnāt fun. Isnāt interesting. There is no reason really to do it if youāre just starting out. Better to just make for me and leave it at that. Fact is if youāre in my shoes or similar MakerWorld is really geared against you. I donāt have the time or energy to overcome it, thereās really little benefit vs just doing my own thing.
They are not a charity, they earn far more from us than we do from them.
It is an unbalanced relationship (that is typical) that they take advantage of (no long term goals with that attitude).
This. Individually we are of no consequence. Together we are directly responsible for Bambuās success. We provide all the models that entice customers and sell filament and printers at way under the going rate for professional design services.
MakerWorld is the goose that lays golden eggs for Bambu and yet they do very little to police it and keep it high quality. Same for their filament. Both should be very high priorities for Bambu because both are the life blood that keeps printers kicking out the door.
All these issues do have me wondering about long-term health here. Itās totally up to Bambu how they run things but if another entity started up another benefits program to draw print models to their printers, Iād put my models on both and see which does better.
This is another part thatās hard to capture⦠How to make this 3d hobby āfunā for people who are at first designing for fun and for themselves. In my case Iām certain that if not for contest I wouldāve posted exactly 4 models less than I did, because only those 4 models were inspired by contest and my goal on top of contest was to learn something for myself. As for publishing stuff goes - I have to keep telling myself that I donāt do it for points, because once Iāll start āfor points!ā itāll stop being fun. This āstop being funā killed couple of my hobbies already, among them one that I invested WAAAAAY more than in 3d printing.
Yep.
I have a ton invested in Legos, Black Series, miniture painting, and the like. The orginal point was to use 3D printing to enhance those hobbies and I have. Then I wanted to share because most of the stands out there arenāt great. I thought āhey these work, I can make adjustments if you need, and theyāll always be freeā.
The mistake I made was doing more.
I know what did it though was this program. No one likes being put in their place, but thatās exactly what MW has done. Driven a wedge between those that are fully experienced and want to make money vs those that want to share and have fun.
I thought that was what Patreon was for.
We are the cash cow. All those that post anything from a little part to massive things. Since itās clear now that little dinky ā ā ā ā like mine isnāt wanted, then why should I help them. They wonāt even listen and let me out of the program after they stated how to do that.
So here I am. Hostage, gonig to lose points. Iāll be over 200 in the hole as it stands now. With the snobbery and being ignored, I donāt think I want to do this anymore. I had more fun just printing.
So far, the models I posted were designed to address a need in my household or for a friend.
I have not created something just for the sake of posting here. So⦠the gift cards are a bonus.
Again, for models of mediocre quality like mine, MW is the perfect host. With all its imperfections, it is the best for my needs.
I have a few models on Cults that generate passive income. Each place has its benefits.
This discussion currently has me really thinking about pulling my stuff. If Iām only going to be in the hole thereās no point in having them up.
We canāt get out, no matter what they said. This puts me in a position to not want to be on MW.
I donāt think your models arenāt wanted. Itās just they may not be the multi-thousand d/l blockbusters others generate. Thereās no helping that except by upping your game and/or going for the more mainstream tchotchke style stuff.
The points and such were a happy surprise and I have leaned into that a little but to each their own. But itās not why I post stuff here. My stuff is nickel/dime stuff anyway.
And creating and seeing what is popular and what isnāt is the only real way to learn. It can be discouraging but stick with it a while and who knows?
I agree with you, 100% good advice.
I donāt have it in me, really. Iām not upset that they donāt qualify for āexclusiveā. What Iām bothered about right now is that Iām held hostage. Since theyāve decided stuff like mine isnāt wanted and made that clear after the fact, Iām in a tough spot.
Iāve asked 4 times to be removed and had 1 converstation. In that converstation it was said some (although I donāt know which) are fine in the exclusive, and theyād give the 12 points (boost - exclusive pts) back. I have told them I just want out, and nothing. Not pulled, no points.
I am fine with not getting those points back. I am not fine with them eventually getting around to removing the rest and deducting points theyāve earned when I tried to avoid that by doing what they said to do.
Iām a simple guy. Just let the models out. Iāve moved the ones that are obvious to private. Moving the others in a week, maybe 3 days.
In awhile Iāll feel like going at it again. When I do though, MW is off the table. Just really donāt trust them, and donāt like how they do users. I donāt want to be a part of that.
Totally your decision but I think Bambu is still licking wounds over the rejection of the Exclusive program and figuring out how to salvage it. My guess is they will award all regular points and maybe even the bonus points too for good will.
Or they may not. But I kind of think they will. They tried to do something that appeared win-win and got thrashed for the rollout. Without gatekeeping there was probably a huge flood especially of inappropriate models for their guidelines. Itās going to take effort to unwind it all and could be why thereās such a backlog to getting requests to pull models done.
I have no idea but can appreciate the headache this has likely become for them. I bet they are in the change tire while car is on highway at full speed phase.
But your call for sure and Iām sure lots understand the frustration.