too lazy to read my comment above too?
Something that i think i understood wrong and was already corrected, but still curious to know and to be sure.
Letâs imagine i want to let my users have commercial licenses over the same files that are as exclusive on makerworld (for example, on cults, patreon, etc.).
They donât host the files at all in this case and i am only selling the rights to the end user to print them and sell them.
What is the veredict on that or hasnât been yet clarified at all?
Sorry if already asked/clarified, topics become long after a while and i am still working
âYou shall not share, sub-license, sell, rent, host, transfer, or distribute in any way the digital or 3D printed versions of this object, nor any other derivative work of this object in its digital or physical format (including - but not limited to - remixes of this object, and hosting on other digital platforms). The objects may not be used without permission in any way whatsoever in which you charge money, or collect fees.
Is this correct ? for a standard license
Thatâs for third parties. Not the original license holder as I see it.
can they be used together or they have to be used separately? for example a mix of new and old points to redeem one gift card?
thers that permission word again though
The publication of an Exclusive Model through the MakerWorld Platform represents a proposal to enter into a license Agreement under the conditions of the Standard Digital File License between the creator and other users. The content of the Standard Digital File License is as followsďź
Users shall not share, sub-license, sell, rent, host, transfer, or distribute in any way the digital or 3D printed versions of this object, nor any other derivative work of this object in its digital or physical format (including - but not limited to - remixes of this object, and hosting on other digital platforms). The objects may not be used without permission in any way whatsoever in which the users charge money, or collect fees. The creator acknowledges that the Standard Digital File Licenses are irrevocably granted to the other users.
3.4.3 Except for the licenses granted under this Agreement, the Creator retains all right, title, and interest in the Model, and the parties retain all intellectual property and other rights it may have under applicable law. Any use of trademarks, service marks, or other marks included Model Branding inures to the benefit of the owner of such marks.
So youâre keeping your right. So you can still give/sell commercial licenses to how you want has long there are not publishing/hosting your file elsewhere.
Unless you give permission , then you are actively changing one license to another
with a legal ramification being proof of any agreement ?
@Tanklet Just a small glitch here - You canât enter a correct Canadian postal code on the Payment Information page. It looks like it only accepts north american style ZIP codes which are only numbers based. In Canada itâs X0X 0X0 formatted with numbers and letters. I had to enter 000000 for now just to get the information submitted.
Remixes fall out off this deal.
As the copyright owner, you can have different licenses for different people, you own the IP.
Letâs take Disney. When you sub to Disney+ they give you the right to access their content for personal use only. But if a TV channel diffuse one of their film they need to ask the permission to diffuse it/get a diffusion license.
Disney+ is MW and the TV channel is a Print Farm in this example
The license says a third party cannot do anything WITHOUT PERMISSION, which implies that with permission from the license holder they can do whatever things they have permission to do. The license gives the power of permission-granting to the license holder.
I have several standard license files. People have reached out to me to get permission to do what they would like to do. I can grant or deny that permission because of the license, not in spite of it.
3.4.1 By uploading and publishing an Exclusive Program Model to MakerWorldâs Platform, the Creator hereby grants to MakerWorld:
Model License: An exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, transferable (e.g. as part of a corporate reorganization), sub-licensable (e.g. to our hosting providers), limited license to process and host your Exclusive Program Model, display it on the MakerWorld Platform, and (subject to the Standard Digital File License) make it available to Users via the MakerWorld Platform
Thatâs the only exclusive right you give to MW/BL when submitting your model to the Exclusive program.
Basically those model canât be hosted anywhere else
Yep math wrong. .08 cents
But anothet issue is giving out my banking info to them. I use PayPal to pay for my stuff in the store. Donât think Iâm giving them banking info⌠jusy sayin.
So, in which stand are we? I just checked and for example, if i make a post on Patreon about a new model, i upload the model there. If that model is in the makerworld exclusive program, and canât be hosted somewhere else then⌠i canât put it on patreon (because patreon hosts it) but instead i must link the makerworld file for my patreons. Is that the correct use case right?
Why do you need to post itâs on patreon if itâs already on MW, you can just post a link? No?
Genuine question. I donât have a Patreon;)
Edit: sorry I didnât read you fully. Yes thatâs how to do it
Normally i donât because my patreon is not about files or 3d printed related. But this was a use case that got me intrigued.
I donât know if that was the case, if redirecting my paid users to another website where you must register (again) for those files would benefit them when instead they could go there directly and download it
It will be interesting to see how all this works out. I was releasing all my models on various platforms. I was making about half in real cash I was making in giftcards per month.
Maybe @Makerworld or @Bambulab can clear this up. The point of licensing for commercial use, for me at least, is to provide a way out for people who want to have the model printed. Because printing via print service providers is also prohibited for the print service provider, as it is a file licence that prohibits commercial use. So even if a private individual commissions a digital file for physical production, the company that ends up doing this must adhere to the licence for the model files.
The other thing with commercial licences is that people download it to sell the model. They buy a commercial licence for it.
What does it look like at the moment?
You must change the models to âStandard Digital File Licenceâ if you make them exclusive. The purpose of this is to prevent commercial use and, above all, to prevent sharing and distribution. Or to allow or prohibit what is regulated in the âStandard Digital File Licenceâ.
What else is problematic?
If you label a model exclusively for Makerworld, you must change the licence. This is not good! The licence type should not be changeable if the model was previously distributable and changeable under a CC licence. Now you can make a model exclusive and there may be copies of it on the web that you donât know about. You cannot retrieve these copies afterwards. However, Makerworld requires that you as the model owner ensure that no further copies exist on other platforms. However, no further copies may exist on Makerworld either, as these are then published and shared under the CC licence. If you are mistaken about this, you cannot withdraw the âexclusiveâ status.