Massive Issues with both Extruders on the X2D

Hello everyone.

I’ve had my X2D for a few days, and I’ve been trying to get the Aux Nozzle to work properly. Emphasis on “Trying”, because whenever I manage to almost fix something, another issue pops up right away. I’ve already reached out to the Support, but I wanted to ask her for additional help as well.

First thing I’ve noticed was that the Filament kept piling up in curved areas of the print:

You can see that there is a large clump of red filament right on the edge of that corner. This was printed with Glow PETG on the Aux Nozzle. Another absolutely desastrous print were these little pins, also printed on the Aux Nozzle:

For reference, this is what they look like on my A1:

I’ve tried Retraction Calibration, I’ve tried Flow Ratio Calibration and Pressure Advance but every single time the results came back essentially identical, with absolutely no indication of any changes at all. Here is one of the PA Calibration Prints:

So I essentially had to Brute-Force the Retraction Settings, slightly increasing and decreasing them until the Pins finally came out alright. Not great, still worse than on the A1, but okay.

But the Filament keeps building up / oozing / overextruding in corners:

Which results in a jagged, torn surface area:

So I figured, Okay, maybe it’s just PETG. Just try it with PLA. Only for the print to be completely covered with tiny holes:

To make matters worse, this ALSO happens on the Main Nozzle, again with PLA:

And at this point, I’m running out of ideas and frankly, am getting extremely frustrated.

  1. PETG and PLA have been dried. Multiple Times even, just to be sure.

  2. Changed the Retraction Speed and Length Settings, which fixed the Pins, but nothing else.

  3. Flow Ratio, PA and Retraction Tests pretty much all came back identical rendering them pointless

  4. Ive increased and decreased the temps

  5. Printing with Stock High Quality Settings, Printing with Adjusted Retraction Settings, doesn’t matter.

  6. Aux Nozzle is much worse, but happens to both the Main and the Aux Nozzle

  7. It doesn’t seem to happen with ALL the prints, it seems that the issue are linked to the Geometry of the Model

  8. No, it’s not the Seams, they aren’t placed near the spots where the holes or imperfections are:

  1. Lowered the Max Volumetric Speed, didn’t make a difference either.

  2. Switched between different Z-Hop Types, also doesn’t make a difference.

I have no idea what I’m supposed to do here. Printed on a 0.4 Nozzle, I’ve been using Sunlu PETG Glow Red, Sunlu PETG Red, Sunlu PLA+ Blue and Sunlu PLA+ 2.0 High Speed Grey. The PLA has been dried for 12 hours at 50 Degrees. PETG has been dried for 12 hours at 60. Doesn’t matter. Issues remain. Same Filament works flawlessly on the A1. I really have absolutely no clue anymore what’s even left to try.

You can do some cold pulls maybe try a high flow nozzel

Hello,

unfortunately I’ve already done several Coldpulls and don’t own a High Flow Nozzle.

Now for this “effects” with PETG on the AUX I got the same results with oozing, blobs and things like this. But PLA seems to be ok ( like a bit better :smiley: ), and did not saw holes like this.

Now this is what I got AI suggestions:
usually caused by moisture in the filament boiling inside the hot nozzle, excessive retraction settings creating a weak restart, or general under-extrusion during fast movements. [1, 2]

Something else that comes to my mind. Are you sure you actually have all set for the proper extruder and nozzle pairs? As maybe after so many trials you have actually changed settings all over the place and now this affects both extruders?

I was confused a lot on how many places, menus, tabs and settings need to click and set. And sometimes by default it show some other tab/window/menu and you may end up setting something on the wrong place. So maybe good time to reset everything ( no idea how to easy do that, maybe re-install studio, or delete some profiles … ). As you have printer settings, then you have filament profile settings and overrides, and process settings per layer height …

Other thing maybe some problems with the PTFE tubes which maybe too tight and make the extruders stutter? Not sure what is your setup if you have AMS or directly feeding and etc. There are some problems with the buffer and the AMS feeding. So you have some options to possibly check. It is highly unlikely to have both nozzles clogged and both extruders worn out. So I would check on the settings and PTFE paths.

I print mostly with PETG from the aux, on an external non AMS roll, and you really have to tune your Pressure Advance manually. I use the test labeled PA pattern. Its going to be a relatively HUGE number. [one of mine measured a whopping 0.470 !!! ] It also is incredibly intolerant of moisture, if you have a dryer to print from, it’ll likely take some headache away. Even still, expect some random wisps and crumbles, the default cleaning procedure IMO doesn’t do well, despite how violent it is. It’s making all the right moves but not maintaining the right temps for the ooze to have completely stopped, prior to cleaning IMO.

It’s not clear exactly what your issue is, specifically the bubbles on Plain PLA. I know you mentioned it but you are REALLY sure that specific test wasnt random seam? :slight_smile: [the photo shows zero layers exhibiting more than 1 defect, the defect doesnt look “blown out”, it looks “emerging from within” — seam is occams razor] How’s your surroudning setup? Are you using like 4 ams with 12 splitters and track switches and rube goldberg machines? Whats plugged into each nozzle, a single directly plumbed AMS, external spool on a roller, etc ?

This with the random seam is interesting. He should be able to see it in the slicer if enable seams to be displayed.

I also got to crazy PA values and also high retraction values, plus some others to make it work acceptable. Do not remember too many problems with PLA though. But also not used too much.

Hello,

Ive double-checked the extruder settings and nozzle-pairs, as well as re-printed everything with Stock Settings. I’m using the AMS Pro for the Main Nozzle and the Exterior Spool Holder for the Aux Nozzle. The Machine is less than a week old, so it cant be worn out.

Yes, I’m 100% certain it’s not a seam issue. They are seemingly random holes, but the Seam is set to “Aligned”, and doesn’t show up in the affected sections in the Slicer. Every time I run a PA Pattern the lines look exactly the same. Just using the AMS for the Main Nozzle and the Exterior Spoolholder for the Aux Nozzle, just the AMS Combo for the X2D and that’s it. I even just replaced the Aux Nozzle with a fresh, never-before used 0.4 Nozzle and Im still getting slight holes on the calibration cube. Not as severe as on the other print, but still there.

I’m currently drying the Filament in the AMS again, but I highly doubt that that’s the issue. The Holes in the Print indicate either Wet Filament or Retraction Issues, but according to the Calibrations and Settings, it should be neither. Thats why Im so stumped. Ive tried pretty much everything that SHOULD fix it, but nothing seems to work.

AUX nozzle will definitely need some time to dial it out.

But you said you have never used 0.4 nozzle, so what nozzle was installed so far?

And what filament profiles do you use?

What about the main extruder now, do you still get the same holes on it?

Hello,

I’ve used a 0.4 Nozzle before on the Aux Extruder, I just meant that I’ve replaced the one I’ve been using so far with a spare Nozzle that hasn’t been used before. I haven’t used the Main Nozzle again, Ive wanted to fix the issue on the Aux Nozzle first

Ok, so I misunderstood that.

So if it is not the retraction, seams or some bad path, and there is no clog, kind of out of ideas.

Maybe time for the Bambu support. But if you get the same “effect” on the main extruder with default settings this start to look like more general defect.

Just when I thought Ive fixed some of the issues, now the Filament is completely stuck in the Toolhead…

Wow, very ugly issue. Do you see in issues with the nozzle?

I think we have few other issue with stuck filament in this area.

What slicer do you use?

Maybe this topic will help: Heat creep, hotend heat plate replaced, then malfunction during calibration

Take pics, I wanna see how that bowden part of the toolhead comes apart when its plugged up :wink:

You might be able to just heat it up to 250, let heat creep get worse and soften it all up, and then smush it thru, down out the nozzle. [assuming the nozzle isnt what is plugged]

It ended up being stuck in the Filament Cutter, not the extruder itself. I had to take it apart to get it out.

I managed to clear the Cutter, but now I have a different issue. The Aux Extruder is now feeding extremely slowly, to a point where it takes Minutes for the Filament to reach the Hotend. Additionally, the 0.4 Nozzle is totally clogged - And I cant seem to unclog it. Heating up the Hotend to 300 Degrees and manually pushing Filament through doest work. Poking it with the Cleaning Needle from below just gets the Needle sticky with Filament but doesnt clear anything. Coldpull doesnt work because the Printer assumes that the Right Extruder is Loaded. I had to use a Spare Nozzle, and managed to extrude successfully…But now the other Nozzle seems to be unuseable, and the Aux Extruder is abyssmally slow. I already tried loosening the clamps that hold the PTFE Tubes in place, but that didn’t change anything…

Absolutely no idea what could be causing this, I never had a clog like that.

I have had my share of clogs over the years.

The worst were usually due to (slight) nozzle bending which can happen from incorrectly seated build plates (should be rare by now), poop chute clogs (again, much reduced nowadays), warping and curling.
The latter two would affect both nozzles in a multicolor print (which is then frequently lost as well).

:crossed_fingers: & :four_leaf_clover:

And now I’m getting this error on top of the aux extruder feeding extremely slowly. Honestly at this point I’m so tired. It looks like the first connector on the toolhead from the left either isn’t connected or was damaged, I assume? Meaning I’ll have to open up everything again.After I put everything together for the first time, I ran a Full Autocalibration and it worked. But when I try to Home the Axis, I’m met with this error. I’m worried that attempting a Homing while the Toolhead is only partially assembled will risk damaging the Printer, but I REALLY don’t want to open everything up again, check the cable, try to re-connect it (Assuming I can’t verify straightup damage), close everything up again only for it to still not work.

Bambu Support is trying to help, but I have to admit at this point I’m getting extremely frustrated. I’m having more issues with the X2D in the first 50 Hours than I had with my A1 in over 8000. This Machine isn’t even two weeks old, mind you.

Okay - Opened it up, and the cable doesn’t seem to be damaged, everything is connected. I suppose I’ll have to wait for Support from Bambu.

Try a fresh spool of unopened filament. Dry it to be sure. Start from scratch with your calibrations as if you’d just bought the machine.

Unfortunately the Printer won’t even let me do Bed Levelling anymore.