I wonder about elaborate designs that can be modified for different occasions (Christmas, Halloween, and others), whether one can upload these modified models as new models and possibly submit them to competitions. I am interested in opinions, although my own opinion is divided here. And perhaps a Makerworld/Bambulab employee (whoever feels responsible) could provide some information on this?
Case 1: I simply create new parts for an existing model and upload this extension for an existing model as a new model and submit it to a competition.
Case 2: I create new parts for an existing model and upload these new parts with the rest of the existing model (so a remix) as a new model (not as remix) and let it participate in the competition.
Simple example: A summer house, a Christmas house, a Helloween house, a birthday house, a garden house. The same house every time with a different appearance for the respective occasions (competitions).
Isn’t it about creativity and new designs.
What you suggests IMHO only adds insult to injury for the creators.
There is already plenty of people doing just that - taking someone else’s creation, making some meaningless changes and entering contests with it they want to win.
And there is even people doing exactly what you suggest - and they usually cause corresponding reactions here in the forum.
I think that once people so desperate that they want to enter contests without putting any real work into it they need a new hobby.
Don’t get me wrong here, I understand where you’re coming from with this idea.
And without the idea of using this to enter contests it would probably be a good idea.
But honestly, what the goal here: Providing good and unique models or increasing chances in contests ?
I don’t think is talking about remixing someone else design. But making themed variation for one of his model.
@KanneKaffe
ChatGpt answer about licencing a “remix” of your own models:
As the original author and copyright holder of both models, you retain full ownership and control over your work, including both the original and any remix or derivative you create. The Creative Commons licenses are primarily distribution licenses that regulate how others may use, share, and remix your work when it’s publicly distributed.
Here’s a breakdown of why your understanding is correct:
Copyright Ownership: Since you hold the copyright to both models (the original and the remix), you have full control over how you distribute and license them. The CC license applies to others who want to use your work, not to you as the creator. You can decide to distribute the remix under a different license or with no attribution to the original.
Creative Commons and Distribution: CC licenses grant rights to others under specific terms, such as attribution (CC BY), but this only applies if someone else wants to use, remix, or redistribute your work. As the copyright holder, you’re not bound by the CC BY terms when dealing with your own creations.
Moral Rights: In many jurisdictions, creators also have moral rights, which include the right to be recognized as the author. However, these rights are separate from CC licenses and continue to exist even when you license your work under CC. Your moral rights mean you retain the ability to determine how your work is presented and credited, but you can choose not to mention the original model if it’s a derivative you’ve created.
In short, you’re free to remix your own work and decide how (or if) to reference the original model. The CC BY license on the original model only applies when others use or share your work. You can choose to publish the remix without attribution to the original, and license it however you like.
I’ve seen others do this, and I do think it’s up to personal preference. Some folks may think it’s cheating a bit, but many others may just appreciate that they have a new seasonal gift to print for their friends and family.
Personally, often I’ve seen someone design something, and then after it becomes very popular, they’ll create a new design based off of it with improvements (like a new seasonal theme, or better attachment points, etc), and I think that’s wonderful. One of the many reasons why 3D printing is so fun - it can be a learning experience on a lot of levels!
It is ok to mix and remix your models but I don’t really understand why it should be ok to do a minor remix of an old model and enter in a competition that declares from the start that it’s for new models.
It’s like entering an original song contest with a remix of a well known song, even if it’s yours. In my opinion this is cheating because new models don’t have a way of measuring the potential success but a well known model already has this tested and only a small part of it is new work for that competition.
This is the reason why a lot of design competitions don’t allow previous shown design. It’s true, on the other hand that some “awards” allow previous seen design but they are not considered competitions in the true sense of the word , they are more a way of validating quality, good practice and so on.
Maker World contest are declared as for original models:
Ineligible Models
1. Models that have already received rewards from the MakerWorld 3D Design Contest.
2. Old models, i.e., models that were published before the Contest Period.
3. Models uploaded as Remix and Share will be ineligible to be considered for winning.
Knowing that I don’t see how a remix of a model should be allowed , even if it’s your own design. To me is pretty obvious that the contest is intended to spark new design not to validate good design in general. For that there are other tools on MW.
