I know this won’t change anything because people who steal designs don’t normally follow rules… but Etsy just added a rule that 3D printed items must be designed by the seller. I guess before that wasn’t a rule?
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Now they have a formal basis to remove items. Without an explicit policy they’re fighting ‘Everybody else does it’ syndrome.
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So now thieves will still sell my stuff and my Patreons won’t take the risk and stop supporting me? Or would a patreon count as “sourced by seller”?
Great find and useful info.
I think the difference is that prior to this new rule, one can get a commercial license from a designer and then print and sell the physical models. If this new rule is implemented by the letter, from now on only the designers themselves can print and sell their own models on Etsy.
“Items produced using computerized tools: Physical items that a seller produced in their personal shop or home, using computerized tools such as a laser printer, 3D printer, CNC or Cricut machine. These items must be produced based on a seller’s original design and are often personalized or customized to a buyer’s specification.”
I think the only relevant “sourced by seller” in this case would be that the seller buy the physical prints (wholesale) from the designer and sell (retail) to the public.
But if the designer has printed the model, they may as well sell it themselves.
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good.
now they need to work on the ai generated slop.
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Well just the way it goes at may just the beginning.
Without commenting on it and just for those how do not notice. (So please don’t justify me - I’m just inform me about the flow.)
It used to be the same with musicians. At beginning, Everyone also just thought as soon as something came from their guitar… that there were composers, lyricists, and so on, which wasn’t really clear to the musicians either. Today, it’s all about the review scan, and within seconds, everything is clear.
And as may perhaps mentioned before, uploading is may no longer a private use. One click and may all the rights are may by the owner were first was passed by 
I understand the need to stop people from stealing designs but some people also pay for commercial licenses which this also affects
Somebody downloading a design and hitting print is just not an artisan. People pay me a little for a commercial license and they sell it wherever which is something I endorse. I like designing, I don’t like printing/selling.
But there is no “skill” involved and this is of course the core identity of Etsy. So I can understand why they would want to only allow 3D prints from the creators themselves
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Just a small side note, everyone has to know that for himself:
Commercial licenses are by far the most painful. What’s they say sometimes? Something like:
liability shall in no event exceed the actual license fee paid by Licensee. No accepts on responsibility for any loss of business or business profits resulting directly or indirectly… or how they write it?
Do you know why I bought my first camera? So I’d know that the shitty pictures weren’t stolen anywhere and were being resold under license… And this from people who have no idea what actually belongs to them at work and what doesn’t…
So if they wana sale there hobby without any background on copyrights knowlages, may they should sale it by themself.
But I will not touch commercial licances as long there is no coverage over a 100`000 Bugs for any s*** done or given by a company which has registert sharholdes and covers all Copyright infringements (and for sure not if I m certainly 3 times better and 10 times faster on the desine).
And of course, when the big guys start shooting, all I want to do is point my finger at one of the other big guys (by a commercial licence sold by them incl. insurance on copyright infringements) as quickly as ever possible and get out my ass of the shooting line as fast as I can.
But this everyone has to know by himself and is his buissnes and not mine
It’s my understanding that @Josh-3D commercial license comes with all that… and more!
Well then, everything’s fine. There is always an eception and thats god (but i do not check on him since I do not have the time for).
They’ll find each other (saler and creator), and then both of them will be fine. The dealer will feed the creator becouse he makes more sales since he has a god creator. And the creator will getting bigger since he has a god saler… And may, just may - if someone sells 3000 pieces (may even without authorization), the good seller would come along (Since he will notice that 3000 pieces had been sold). Will make the deal and send the thief packing - since he got the rights to sale and the thief is chrashing his buissnes… but just maybe, how knows.Thats a market and not a childrend hood. What do you think what Etsy will do becouse they get one complayn after the other becouse of 5 solde peaces? They may don`t have the time for and may kick all into the dessert…
Okay, there may be exceptions. But realistically, do you think anyone who is serious about enforcement is actually going to check every person on a platform who even offers exclusive figures protected of major trademark rights like Walt Disney? Do we really need to investigate whether there’s a genuine exception in each case? How they even check if creators draw on commercial licensences (as noted before, if they draw on Fusion 360, Autodesk will already know it)? Thats a joke over all without even looking at and the best you may can aspect on this is as noted before: liability shall in no event exceed the actual license fee paid by Licensee… and so on…
For example, there’s always the possibility that Walt Disney has granted a small company the rights to create a limited number of there copyrighted figures… How knows, may it is really happen??? But how can we distinguish between someone who is simply printing a few figures as a fan, and someone who is trying to sell commercial licenses for those products? Well this i do not need to answer becouse thats the only right of the copyright holder and he has 70 years time to do so…
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There are dozens and dozens of videos detailing how you can stick some free clipart onto a “thing” (tshirt or cup or something), put it up on Etsy, let some third party apply the design to the “thing” and ship it FOR YOU and you never have to raise a finger.
But yeah, 3D printing, processing, shipping something from someone’s home is the problem. GTFOuta here with that BS
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I’ve actually talked to Madeline before, but she was a paperclip. I was trying to create a numbered list in Microsoft Word. She was a big help.
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I meant more commercial licenses from companies that sculpt their own IP. I have a few like DM Stash as I mainly work in resin.
The people that print blatantly copyrighted items like things from Disney which have done so because they have a commercial license from the sculptor who stole the work in the first place should have their items removed.
Etsy are blanket removing any and all items that fall in that catagory that use renders and such which I do find quite stupid.
Well, that’s really more of a hobby for me. I’ve been a YouTube Partner since 2012, but professionally, I’m also paid by indursty people - those who work in megawatts and tons. I also hold several licenses in kind background, but again, this is more of a hobby but I know well how quick you can by clamed and that you need to be well prepared to show that the clam is wrong. And that even after 10 years of uploading and copyrights are even valid for 70 or more years…
So just sit back and enjoy the show it may happen or it may never happen We’re changing our points system, also nice to read alonge
What you may should also know: Autodesk is not a nobody. Autodesk not only owns the copyrights to the CAD software - software which Bambu Lab probably esential needs to build any 3D printer. Autodesk is also the owner of Magento, the world’s leading e-commerce platform software, so if you want build a E-Shop you properly will deal with someone how deals with Autodesk Copyright. What kind of business is Etsy again? I’m always so confused. Doesn’t Etsy have something to do with selling shoes? 
However, so Autodesk — where you have to draw online to use there fusion 360 (and were they may will know every single dot you ever draw in), were you may can use for free as a private person is owned by a sleeping giant that’s much bigger than Stratasys. May uploding something is no longer privat since its public… however, how knows. I do not need to know it since it is not my buissness. Since I have anyway a commercial CAD license, get paid for CAD and want a software that delivers… So I know also well, Autodesk is a giant how know how to get there right and there money if they like to get it. The god thing, they may don’t will touch the small stuff and just the stuff how brings cash in…. By the way, it’s also not unusual how, in software (intellectual property), the commercial aspect is sometimes only partially excluded. For example, special fonts, certain video editing functions (the rest could also be used for business purposes), or fonts are limited to commercial business letters, etc. Why does every big company immediately design its own typeface? Is it because they want to make a lot of money and support poor artists, or because they can get a lot of letters demanding something? But never clame them before they are big and have money to pay! Maybe, and who knows, Bamulab will always exist and will only change owners, who knows?
And then come ways of thinking like: The owner must prove that they have the rights… Yes, but probably (I am not a lawyer so always question everything yourself) not for things that even a blind person can recognize as copyright injury and it is just a simple person who knows absolutely nothing about copyright law at all… YouTubedid this in beginning too, and thankfully the smart-ass behavior is over now and they simply had to…
Stratasis 628 Million US-Dollar
Autosdesk 6.15 Billion US-Dollar
Google 753 Billion US-Dollars
The time period in which a piece has to take part in a Bambulab competition until it is in the Google index is 3-5 days (Check the whole URL of an unobserved part in Google search and you know if it has been indexed)
If it were important it would be in the Google index in 2 hours. If it is absolutely meaningless it would by index something like in 14 days. However, getting indexet in 3-5 Days, thats not really fast at all…