Orca Slicer or die!

Figure out how to relay on your LAN mode only. That way you won’t depend on any 3rd party outside of your control to print what you want, whenever you want (in other words, being able to use your own property the way you see fit). At this time relaying on 3rd party providers seems convenient and risk free, so most starters in 3d printing aren’t going to have (or express) any concerns as the current process it suits them. However, once they’ll be confronted with a Bambu’s cloud outage (or even having to pay for a possible monthly subscription to use Bambu’s cloud- a fact that Bambu keeps denying it will happen… for now… but there are several precedents that demonstrate the opposite), these users, which today are happily accepting everything Bambu says or does, as long as it works, they’ll be faced with a serious problem: they’ll own a machine that can’t be used (for lack of access to Bambu’s cloud) or could have to pay additional fees to access that cloud…
Question for you to think about: Why does one need to send a print job from his PC via someone else’s pc (cloud) to be printed on his printer in the next room, when the same process can be done locally, through your LAN, without any dependency on any 3rd parties?

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Thank you very much for this valuable informations. I will apply it as soon as possible.

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I make no assumptions that you are “uneducated or lack knowledge”, so no need to take offense.
Just like I take no offense that you assume I am a BL support employee. I do not work for BL. :wink:

In the post you are replying to, I was merely suggesting there are things to worry about with the BL’s current trending behavior. And those arguing that BL is doing nothing wrong are either not recognizing the danger or are outright ignoring it. Which one are you?

This statement suggests you are either not understanding it, contrary to your assertion, or really do understand it and are ignoring the implications.
Justifying bad company practices because others have done it, is like a child telling their parents their bad behavior is warranted because “other kids are all doing it”

Again… I don’t know how many times I have to make this point, but I will make it one more time…

We (people who use MQTT and Orca Slicer) in our workflows, are not asking BL to ignore security concerns, nor are we asking to break the simpler workflows… ie using BL Studio and DL Handy. We are asking to continue using the tools we enjoy even if that means (accepting liabilities by) opting out of a higher security model.

Maybe if I post this after every response telling me how ridiculous my position is, someone will actually read it and realize “IT WON’T HURT YOU A BIT!”

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I print firearms (legally). Sending firearm prints through Bambu’s (a Chinese company) cloud would be an ITAR violation which carries a $1,000,000/instance fine and often lots of jail time on top of that.

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Block printer IP in your firewall, isolate your printer LAN, stay secure, and (eventually) you’ll be fine.

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You shouldn’t be using 3d printers from foreign countries anyway. Based on that violation scheme…

sems the thread slowly sinks oblivion…

Well… To recal the thread’s title: orca slicer! Is winning slicer game for printer manufacturers. Looks like snapmaker, creality, anycubic, elegoo and bunch of others bet on it. Prusa printables and tingiverse both embraced “open in orca”…

There’s a bunch of cool stuff coming in orca 2.3 that I’m looking forward to :slight_smile:

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cricket
:smile:

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I feel like i haven’t seen much discussion around it, but i have to say I’m pretty irritated at Bambu for the stupid Bambu Connect drama for a host of reasons, such as losing the dialing in on orca slicer that i did previously for the PETG-CF from Bambu. Despite Bambu selling PETG CF, their profiles are garbage.

Since the “upgrade” Orca won’t connect about half of the time to my printer at all, and when it does it won’t sync AMS anymore at all. It also can’t seem to send any prints anymore.

So yeah. Now i have to learn a new layout, redo a ton of filament calibrations, and i get the dissatisfaction of knowing that Bambu leaves a nice, hackable hole in my home network. I am somewhat intrigued by the H2D, but since this little “screw you” from Bambu, I’ve decided I’m never buying another machine from them again.

I know this is mostly just complaining and doesn’t add much to the forum, but i really liked what Bambu was doing, right up until this. I love 3d printing and what you can do with it, and I loved what Bambu was doing to put it in reach for more people. I would have stayed with Bambu for years and probably filled my small workshop with several of their machines. Instead, the only thing ill be buying from Bambu is PETG-CF because they have it pretty cheap. As soon as someone else sells it for a similar price, I’m never buying anything Bambu again. I’ll go back to Voron and then to Prusa instead i think.

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Let me help you cut that bond.

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That’s exactly what I’m looking for. I’ve ordered 1 for testing, but I expect it to be just as good as the Bambu version. Thank you!

Yes, it is pretty good.
I’ve used it in the past. They have a decent color selection too.
Plastic spools are AMS friendly as well.
Glad to help!

Hi All,

I have been away for a few months, so I am a bit behind on current affairs with BS, so apologies if this has already been covered.

I recall a few months back that Bambu decided to start locking down their firmware so that the printers (in future) would only be accessible via Bambu Studio (which would block Orca Slicer) and what not. This caused huge backlash from the community. As I was taking a hiatus from printing, I didn’t pay much attention to it at the time. Can anyone tell me the current state and stance from BL? Did they back down, or is this now enforced in the software?

Thanks,

In a nutshell, they haven’t backed down, but side-stepped by adding a “Developer Mode” to LAN mode so you can use your third party accessories and software still… while forgoing Bambu Handy and cloud connectivity entirely. All the name of (in)security.

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So, we can use dev and lan mode and it’s the same as it was previously where the mobile app doesn’t work but we can still send sliced files from Orca?

If so, that’s really not ideal, but workable I suppose. :confused:

I wish Prusa were just a little bit more of a step up, I’d be happy to pay more to not have to deal with being pushed to send all my data to a 3D printer manufacturer.

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Mostly yes it should be about the same, functionally. But your support or warranty could be impacted. The jury is still out on that aspect.

IIRC someone already mentioned they were forced to upgrade firmware if they wanted support (so much for “firmware upgrade is optional”), and I wouldn’t be surprised if you were also asked to disable lan/dev mode sometimes too.

I believe Prusa is working on it. But for whatever reason they are a little slower.

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If the developer was only informed two days prior and their request for direct API integration was denied, what evidence does Bambu provide to support their claim of being in ‘active contact’ with them?

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Für mich ist BambuLab keinen Kauf mehr wert. Ich habe bisher mit meinem X1C immer ORCA genutzt weil dort Funktionen (z.B. Kalibrierung) verfügbar sind die es in Bambu Studio nicht gibt. Und die Möglichkeit von BambuLab eventuell meinen Drucker zu sperren weil ich die neuste Firmware nicht installiere bzw. das dadurch auch die Gefahr besteht das ich (wenn BambuLab es will) keine Fremdfilamente mehr verwenden kann ist für mich einfach inakzeptabel. Ich habe kein Produkt gekauft bei dem der Hersteller auf einmal die Spielregeln einfach ändert.
Gott sei Dank gibt es auch andere gute Drucker. Und die Mitbewerber schlafen nicht.

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