Picked up a kobra 3 combo

It arrived Thursday, assembled and have been printing quite a bit with it, checking it out. The Ace has worked great, currently testing out the dryer portion of it.


As with most, the bed doesn’t appear to be perfectly flat, but it’s not bad. One object I printed had a peculiar wall(photo attached)


Inside of wall

Outside of wall

What do you reckon causes that inside issue?

I’d already had 5 rolls of Anycubic RFID PLA, the Ace picked it up no issue. What I’ve printed of this filament, it’s an extremely flat look.

Some of the riser shown is in Bambu ABS from the P1S, the PTFE tube support was printed on the A1 mini using CC3iD PLA, the flashforge adventurer 5m Pro pitched in for the support feet at the back(not pictured) in Anycubic PETG black. The poop deflector and bin, as well as the Ace railing up top, and the hygrometer holder, was the product of the Kobra 3 and the anycubic RFID PLA.

Total print time is 15 hours and 18 minutes, this information is found in the phone app.

The Anycubic slicer Next PC app is pretty good. Instead of a device tab, it has a workbench tab for LAN or cloud printing. Displays the print task, print settings, printer, camera(the Kobra 3 doesn’t come with one, it’s a 19.00 add on), Ace management, and axis movement. Prepare and preview are like Bambu/Orca. Anycubi C’s software, both PC and mobile work far better than flashforge, but not as good of a user experience as Bambu, IMHO.

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You didn’t buy a Bambu printer.

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Obviously, he has clearly and very loudly said

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In general, I don’t want to and won’t talk specifically about the Kobra.

Problems can always arise with bed slingers. So let us go thure this points:

Preface:

Bed Slingers is a different class with different problems. As a side note, Anycube also once manufactured a bed slinger that I owned, which only had one motor on the Z axis. Of course, you could set up the clearance gaps so that no problems arose, but it did require a bit of sensitivity, which very few people have. So the weight is therefore less stable in height and is not as firmly connected to the base plate as with a CoreXY.

Phrozen Arco an coreXY (which also has massive delays) keeps the weight down and raises the print head as the part grows, contrary to all others that lower the plate. This can have huge benefits as you want the mass to be as low as possible - just like a wrestler tries to keep his mass as deep as possible when defending. Think of it this way: it takes more force to spin a rock flat on the ground than to throw it off a pole.

The Magneto X makes the greatest length over the most massive guide - the shorter guide axis only carries the print head.

So let’s get to the point:

I prefer solid guides - not plastic wheels, which often have to be adjusted very precisely because of their wear. Above all, the big Bed slingers then have massive wear and tear on the plastic wheels. In addition, they move the part with the greatest weight. The part that you actually only want to move minimally.

I want belts that have to move as little mass as possible and are as wide as possible. And best of all would by, no straps at all. Belt = Adaptation to temperature, self-relaxation, aging and so on.

I would like to have solid Z-guides, the larger the diameter, the less wear there is because the contact surfaces are larger. Guide rails are generally on Z,X and Y, i like to see as massiv as general (But it led to problems with the QIDI I-Fasst at different camber temperatures and it hasn’t had autocalibration)

I want as little mass as possible on the printers top. But if there is, we want it to be massively supported to the printer base. With a CoreXY I really don’t see any problems with putting an AMS on it.

@JJTechPrints

His mistake wasn’t that he didn’t buy a Bambulab, his mistake was that he bought a Bedslinger. But I think that he will experience the disadvantages better with the printer than with a printer that is difficult to access to identify the problem to grow from it.

Of course, bed slingers can also have advantages, everyone has to decide that based on their application. A Bedslinger can really the better choice for beginners.

So I wouldn’t say that he made a mistake at all, he is now making the experience and will incorporate it into his future purchasing decisions.

But I don’t want to say that you’re wrong - too many cooks spoil the broth. The moste important thing is that you follow your line and don’t get distracted in different directions.

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I was definitely trying to have a bit of fun with them for asking about technical help on a non-Bambu printer in the forums. But to be fair, their post is appropriately in the ‘Other topics’ section. Honestly, I’ve looked into the Kobra 3 combos myself, and I think they offer fantastic value for the price!

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Everything ok :wink: You’re right too!

I just see the classic bed slinger problems… that’s why I replied. You can see them a little more clearly on this printer. From that point of view, it’s not 100% wrong to clearly see bed slinger problems.

Mounting an AMS on the top of a Bedslinger - well, after loose comes broken and between loose and broken there are a lot of small gradations. It’s all a question of the requirements…

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In case anyone in here wasn’t aware, the P1S was my first printer, followed shortly by the A1 mini.

Hank is correct about the experience, it’s exactly what I was looking for. My Bambu’s are print and forget.

I bought this cheap enough for a learning experience. Over night I experienced a mess after starting the flow rate test - pass 1. I’ll post pictures after awhile of the mess.

Took care of mess, found Z axis inner rollers free wheeling so adjusted those and am doing the flow rate test again.

I’m posting about it here because I like this forum and the knowledge that comes with it. I’m not concerned with another person’s preference, just their experience in solving issues.

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Here’s the mess from the first flowrate test

No idea what happened, started printing, went back to bed. Obviously it turned loose from the bed, but that initial layer doesn’t even look close to anything I’d seen yet.

Here’s a successful flowrate test, I just don’t know exactly what I’m looking for. 10-20 look the worst to me, but I don’t know what that’s telling me. Watching it print that top row gave me the impression the nozzle was rubbing print(just wondering about bed warpage). I’m running test again, only I’ve rotated it 180°

First layer of test print after rotating

Least of all, you bought a cheap teaching experience.

I have to go thruh expensive teaching experience lessons… even in 3D Printing.

No matter what the errors on the cheap printer look like, on the expensive you will face exactly the same. The only diverence, you have to unscrew 10 more screws and you have less space until the source of the error has been fixed. In addition, errors in the component and the printer are more difficult to detect. And the printer and the repair will only become more expensive.

Off topic:

As has often been mentioned, the head is like a muscle that needs to be trained to the problems which needs to by solved.

When I was younger there was an incident on the Caribbean island. I mounted a 1.5 ton part on a 3 ton part with crane and chain hoist. I complained that it was extremely difficult. Than they start checking the paperwork. The measurement protocol of the Korian manufacturer checked by the European head quater showed that the two parts only had 0.01 mm of play between each other - one part was manufactured incorrectly. In general, no one could believe that I was able to get it together without it getting jammed - the eye and gap feel that I have was trained over 30 years… For half the day I only distinguish between deviations and errors (Error = unacceptable deviation for the application needed). If I viewed every deviation I see as a error, everything would just be rubbish.

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I look for the sample with the largest, smoothest, central area. View it from different angles in good light, run a finger or fingernail across the surface. Don’t be concerned about the borders or corners, that is affected more by pressure advance.

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In my experience it’s never a good idea to launch an overnight print job and go to bed, while leaving it unsupervised or not monitored.

Probably true, but up until then, everything was going swimmingly :rofl:

Have you considered that it might have happened probably because you betrayed BL and went for a Kobra 3 combo ? Just saying :grin:

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I woulda figured if that were the case, it’d happened when my flashforge arrived :rofl: but maybe that’s the flashforge software issue that’s haunting me​:thinking::wink:

It is funny seeing all the ones on reddit that are returning them and buying the A1

There’s no fun in that!

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Oh yes and how true that is!

But now, I’m sleeping like an angel, don’t even wait for the first layer.

But I think it’s good if people are reminded of this, especially if they are only in contact with Bed-Slingers. No idea who said that:

Prologue: We hated 3D printing as much as we loved It.
We set 5 goals before we set off on this journey 22 months ago:

  • No more Bed-Slingers
  • No more bloodshed during support removal
  • Sleep soundly during over-night prints
  • Bring color back into the community
  • Stiff PA-CF parts for my Nerf blaster

However and dosen`t matter who said it: The movement of the bed by bed slingers also makes spagetti recognition more difficult. Peaceful sleep is at the top of my list when it comes to 3D printing - It’s worth 500 euros to me :wink: Disclaimer: although you cannot leave the printer unattended, even if it is an X1C.

Would I feel guilty buying a non-BL printer? Oh no - I’ll sleep like an angel, if the time is ready. I’ll throw the X1C in the trash like I throw severel S1 from Creality with a unit price of 750 USD went to the trash. Even if the automatic bed leveling was a blessing too…

So you have a slogan to get everyone who knows the disadvantages of Bed Slinger as a customer and then bring a Bed Slinger - no mercy and no pity :wink:

Getting all the people who don’t want bed slingers was Bambulab’s first ultimate goal. And so they quickly became known.

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Do you have a problem with the Flashfroge software?

LOL… he’s having a Flashforge problem … period :upside_down_face:

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A lot of times they have server issues, unable to login. Orca slicer works fine with it. Their app isn’t much good

The printer itself is actually pretty good, except for the constant fan noise. Powering off with the button puts fan in half speed mode.

However, that fan has nothing on the fan on the Kobra 3. Not sure why everyone isn’t powering them down like Bambu does.

Ah ok, uncomfortable to hear that. Well I do not using any app`s at all. I’m more of the opinion that a printer that needs an app is a printer that has not yet been fully developed.

But I only have secure prints on my M5 - Greentec Pro and TPU so nothing will happen there were I need to by informed, at least that’s the case for me now. And if something could happen, that stuff goes to the X1C.

But I see, you really want to get into the topic, even with flow test - impressive. If you have any questions, just let me know :wink:

@Jenkins Best profile picture I’ve ever seen. Rarely that I have I smiled so much… may the powerleaf be with you.

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