There was a de minimus rule that exempted shipments under $800 but that goes away next month. What happens is you get billed by customs or the carrier if you are subject to tariffs.
If you don’t pay/cancel after the carrier paid on your behalf they can come after you. Special provisions for tax payments. Don’t pay and your package apparently gets sold at auction as unclaimed. Best is to speak with a lawyer and read up at customs website if you’re in that position.
I’m not pretending to know definitively (and I’m not sure anyone does in this chaos), but in the Prusa scenario, they had no US component. No “Prusa US”. So each unit came directly from them one at a time through an international carrier (DHL). I might remember some blurb from DHL about “if you owe a duty, we’ll contact you…blah blah”. In this HD2 scenario there’s a “BAMBU US”. I’ve got to believe at the volumes of sales they’re doing (magnitudes over Prusa), they’re using shipping containers, and paying tariffs on the value of goods in those containers. Unloading the containers to their US warehouse, and then distributing individual printers to end users through domestic shippers. In this scenario, all I can figure is A)Bambu eats the duties, hedging the gamble with a $200 price increase as we saw to diminish their loss. Or B) Sending out an email to each end user with some “due to variables beyond our control, if you still want your printer we need you to send us more money”. Under scenario “B” you could then decide to terminate or execute the agreement based on the new terms.
I guess all I’m trying to understand is this scenario being purported that we end up with some huge surprise bill we’re legally liable to pay. I think in the above Prusa example/scenario, I could see that possibly. Thoughts?
If the goods are already in the States you’re set. There won’t be a carrier or customs bill.
I was just saying orders now can be a surprise if stuff ships out of China.
Everything I’ve ever ordered from Bambu has shipped from a US fulfillment center, in which case Bambu would have already paid any import tariffs. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t change this and shift the tariff burden to the end customer by shipping directly from China to the customer, but if they do that without informing customers in advance it would be a PR nightmare for them. (I know it would be the last thing I ever order from them, given the tariff I would have to pay would be over $1000 if it’s based on the retail price of the contents.)
Again, not claiming to be an import/export pro, I just think the difference is Prusa sends one unit from factory in Czech Republic via carrier directly to US, (likely air freight) to end user. International carrier pays the import duties and passes them on to you via bill. On the Bambu, I suspect they ship via ocean freight in shipping containers. Hundreds of units to Bambu US(Texas?), not joe smith in Tennessee. The tariff bill for those hundreds of units goes to Bambu US, who then has to figure how to pay it. They unload the containers, re-label the boxes and ship them from Bambu US (Texas?) to Joe smith Tennessee.
I would also postulate that the printers for the May 9th shipment are already on a ship floating across the ocean, as 4 weeks seems a little short for the trip. This could explain why they’re doling them out in phases. Next batch might be in a container waiting for vessel. These schedules go out months in advance.
What country are you in? Not USA, Canada or EU I assume. Bambu always ships from local depots for all major western countries.
In the uk its local depot is the carriers (dpd / post office) products ship directly from china
The consumer is not the Importer of Record (IoR). The IoR pays the duties directly. In this case I would assume Bambu (or if the set up a US affiliate) is the IoR, so Bambu pays the tax. They would pass the additional cost on to their consumer by raising the prices of the products. So if you ordered something (unless Bambu would back out of the deal that they charged you) the price you paid is it…should be no surprises.
This is mostly correct. However duties are paid when the import is inducted…so even though they may already be on a ship on their way, whatever tariffs are in place when the arrive at US customs is what Bambu has to pay.
And then of course they pass the expected extra cost off to the consumer through the price increase.
What pisses me off is at 10:00 +30 seconds I placed a H2D full laser 10 w combo in my cart and quickly went through the order process. I paid with my Apple Pay account and completed the order. However I never got an email confirmation, saw no new orders listed in my orders, and no charges to my Apple Pay account. Started a chat session with Bamboo Labs to verify the pre-order and was told that they must have sold out before I completed the order. I would have expected that putting an item in my cart would have reserved it long enough to go through the order process. It was bad enough that the price went last minute but what happened to me after that was totally unacceptable.
Nope, multiple times I put one in my cart and when I to go to the Pay tab, it would tell me it was empty. Like i mentioned before, its all such a Cluster F with everything going on
Not sure how acurate this maybe under todays economics (timeline makes it seem more like air freight?):
Typically, shipping to the United States from China will take anywhere from 1-45 days, depending upon the mode of transport chosen and the final destination of the goods within the United States. Air Express can take anywhere from 1-5 days, air freight from 2-15 days, and sea freight from 15-35+ days…
These numbers are estimates, and the exact transit times will depend on a number of factors, including what types of goods you’re shipping and their load, where in the United States you’re shipping to, the season, current demand, and especially Chinese Holidays which can also have an impact on shipping depending upon the time of year.
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I buy a lot of Chinese collectables and I imagine that like most stuff from China it comes by sea freight on shipping containers which takes 4-6 weeks to arrive in the US.
I was set to buy the H2D combo which already is expensive but when they went up in price that idea went up in smoke. I can’t pay an extra $200-300 for an already high priced printer and accessories so I’ll just have to wait it out.
Well I think I managed to snag one in the UK just as they went live again today. Ridiculous price, certainly not worth it and I won’t get the full use of it, but it looked the best for my needs so I said what the hell.
I feel sorry for our US friends with the tango man being in charge. I’d say at least you only have another 4 years of terror, but it seems he’s going to try and change the Constitution to fix that error, so even that isn’t looking good. 
Bambu - guess you may lose some sales in US. I’m out until our governments correct a few things. Geez, buy our beef, it’s really good. I was raised on a farm and raised cattle. At least you have time to fix the bugs.
Centauri Carbon is not shipping until August. (EDIT “shipping before July 31”)
I wish people would actually try to do the things they talk about, before they talk about them.
I see a logical error here.
“Ridiculous price + best for my needs” means the price must be right. None of the cheaper machines are fullfilling the specification.
edit: Fixed quoting
No, it just means I’m stupid.
What your point? I’m strictly pointing out the cost is still the same price as it was, unlike Bambu. I didnt say anything in my comment about shipping dates. That was a non factor, it was just about the current prices which can be bought for at this point in time with the tariffs vs what it was days ago
I wish people would understand what they are reading and the point of the comment before trying to construct one of their own…
