Publish on makerworld models that are not mine

Is there a way to import models made by other people on third-party sites like Thingiverse, printable, etc., but that aren’t on MakerWorld? Basically I downloaded some models, created the bambu print profile by changing settings, dimensions, etc. and printed it. Since it’s not on MakerWorld I would like to publish the print profile obviously indicating that I’m not the author and leaving the link to the original model with all the relevant references. I also checked and the author allows changes and sharing of the model, so I wouldn’t violate any copyright rules.

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sorry, i’m italian and i don’t understand what you mean by
"oohhh did you open a can " :sweat_smile: :rofl:

No need to apologize. I only meant that’s a topic of some debate around here. Just sit tight though, you’ll get some thought provoking answers.

I am of the mindset that if you contact the original creator and they provide some permission then I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Some designers may have a problem with it.

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Ask yourself what YOU want if a person uploads YOUR creation somewhere else …
Some credit and a link to the original file of course.
But then there is the problem we call LICENSE.
In most cases you are actually NOT allowed to just upload a model your found somewhere else, not without consent from the creator at least.

In short: Upload YOUR OWN models.
If you actually printed things from other sites and want to provide the best possible print profiles on Makerworld then please think again.
You should add those where the creator has the model, like as a remix in Thingiverse that links back to the original.
You COULD do the same on Makerworld but the license terms might get you into trouble quickly unless you link the original and make clear you ONLY provide print profiles and slicing settings or such.
Credit the original creator and ALWAYS ask for consent if the license terms are not clear enough.

Creators struggle enough as it is, one should not start a war by taking their creations to upload them somewhere else…
Just saying…

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You can if the original design allows it in the license. You have to read it carefully.
Makerworld has and option when uploading models so you can make clear is a model from other site and not yours.

So yes, you can, but not always.

Just upload it if the model’s license allow it. Make sure to mark it as a “remix” and link to the original one. If the model’s license doesn’t allow it, then don’t.

You can always upload print profiles and mark them as private if you want to use them for yourself in case the license doesn’t allow sharing.

If possible, be open to removing your uploaded model if the original author uploads it to Makerworld. You don’t have to tho if their license allowed it in the first place, but it’s a nice gesture.

There is a specific option for this:

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I believe that is when you are the owner of the related account from where you wish to source your models from to make it easier as the or owner.

You need to provide credentials and be able to edit the account bio.

The OP wishes to takes models where they are not the owner and do not have permission directly from the original owner, only the license doesn’t prohibit it.

Yes indeed. My bad.

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I wasn’t on MW at its start, but I think there was another upload type called “shares” at that time.

I can only assume that is purpose was to be able to share/upload content from other repo without remixing the model.

I don’t know why they removed it, but I can only guess there was some backlash or some misused with it.
The non respect of the original licenses could be a reason but since this is also a known problem with remixes, I don’t think so.
I think the main reason is the reward system.
I don’t known, I wasn’t there at that time but I guess that shares weren’t earning points and people tends to upload them as remixes anyway to earn some point.
So they removed this option completely to avoid this type of behaviour.

So to answer to your question. IMO the best thing to do is to ask the original creator to upload his model on MW. And if he doesn’t want to do it and you really want upload a print profile on MW for your own convenience. Upload it as a private model/print profile.

Henlor that’s exactly what I meant, maybe I asked the question wrong!
I just wanted to upload to mw the bambu studio print profile that I created from a model downloaded from Printables and created by another person to which I did not make any changes except scaling it to adapt it. On the page of the downloaded model the account is of the creator of the model who grants permission to remix and in particular:

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons (4.0 International License) CC BY-NC 4.0
Attribution - NonCommercial
Attribution - NonCommercial
:heavy_multiplication_x: | Sharing without ATTRIBUTION
:heavy_check_mark: | Remix Culture allowed
:heavy_multiplication_x: | Commercial use
:heavy_multiplication_x: | Free cultural works
:heavy_multiplication_x: | It satisfies the Open definition

obviously by uploading it to mw I would have clearly indicated that I am not the creator of the model, specifying who it is, putting the original link, etc…

The doubt arose when I went to the mw site to upload it and I saw that if I choose the “omport from a third-party website” option, it connects to my account and allows me to upload only my own creations, but not those of other users. the only way would be to choose “remix”, where I can indicate who the creator is, the type of license etc… but the problem is that “remix” is for models to which substantial changes are made and I do not believe that simply creating a print profile and changing the scale is “making substantial changes” and therefore I could violate the mw rules.
For this reason, I created the post, to ask if there is a way to do it or what the correct one is. I do not want to want any rules and above all I do not want to take anything away from the creator.
I also thought about asking the original creator to upload his model on mw, but even if he said yes, how could I do it given what I wrote above? I can’t find the right way.
It would be useful if bambu allowed you to upload print profiles as I asked, simply with the rule of indicating the author, licenses, etc… nothing would be violated that way.
I forgot, in the meantime I looked on mw and there are many people who have done what I just suggested, they have uploaded simple print profiles as remixes by putting the link to the original model in the description, specifying the author, etc… Maybe I’m too correct, but as I wrote before I don’t want to violate any rules or take away the work done by other people, so I preferred to ask and without confirmation that it can be done, I don’t want to do it.

Maybe, but in this case I’m too ^^. The thing is that it is a grey area situation.
Most licenses allow the file to be shared but MW doesn’t have that option to upload a share, only remixes and originals. And like you mentioned it, they have guidelines on what’s a remix and it’s clearly not a share.

So technically IHMO, you can’t upload a share on MW.

And on top of that, if you decide to upload it as a remix, you will earn points with the work of someone else. Which is to me a no no. Maybe I’m too correct :wink:

That’s why I think the best thing to do in this case, is to ask to the original designer, to create an account on MW and upload its own work. You will then be able to upload your print profile.

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I don’t understand why it should be acceptable, given the number of hours we spend creating models, to receive the same reward points as someone who simply shares a file!

I saw someone last week reposting a copy of the file that Makerworld uses to promote the Hanger contest without mentioning the creator! And the guy who made this mistake is a big account with tons of posts.

Sadly there’s a whole group of entitled people who take advantage of MW’s lax attitude. I’d consider shares, public domains, and to some extent remixes as no-effort and should be rewarded as such (= nil), but that will never float with the masses who love those sweet gift cards. Doesn’t gel with me.

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There is so much ■■■■ being published here that it greatly affects the visibility of our projects.

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It appears that choosing remix or original as the upload type to share or repost models may be considered violation… :face_with_monocle:

Surely this is quite a grey area, licences so far as I am aware are neither globally applicable or enforceable.

If that gets you, don’t search “Benchy”.

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