The whole “rating” options system in MW is pretty confusing and not really all that useful in my mind. It seems like a person can only rate print profiles? That seems weird and offputting to me. I would like to rate the design its self (like on other platforms), because 99% of the time I don’t load a print profile into Bambu Studio, but instead download the design file(s) and then load them into my own profile settings (at which point I’m not allowed to give a rating - I don’t think anyway). I would very much like to give a rating on the design its self, rather than an AMS print profile when I don’t even have an AMS (for example).
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Design is too personal an evaluation, there are models that took a long time to create but cannot please everyone and we also end up with non-logical evaluations. The printing profile is evaluated specifically to verify that the model has the correct parameters to be printed with Bambulab.
If you don’t like the design of a model, you see it immediately and move on, if you like it, you assign the Boost.
Already with press profiles, many do not know how to evaluate and assign low ratings just because they don’t like the model, let alone a star rating.
On the other hand, you can always leave a good or bad comment whether to help the designer improve or vice versa
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The rating system is way too random for use on makerworld. It’s rorted and mistakenly used often in retaliation for the users inadequacies like dirty plate or general lack of good habits. There is no way to know that 5 stars means it either printed ok or that the user LOVES pokemon no matter how crappy the overhangs look.
One alternative would be having tick boxes which are generic enough to cover the spectrum of genres and indicate that a user had a result in that area. They could be termed in a standard way everyone can understand like Complete, Adhesion, Print Reflects Image, etc. But that would be too hard and probably too much trouble for a larger portion of people to take time doing.
My opinion would be to scrap the stars altogether and just leave the Like and Comment section. I’d imagine the Boost system may have been a transition tool to scrap the star rating if the acceptance was up enough, but that again is abused and not fair enough to dribble down to smaller niche models. Monetising was a great incentive initially but the slippery slope happened because they left it in place for too long and now taking it away will end in a crash. So its now a place to come scam a few cards on a dodgy profile with stolen models, get tagged, make a new profile, repeat.
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Meh, I disagree. There’s a reason it is effectively used on so many other platforms. Like you said, if you don’t like a design, you move on (vote silently cast). If you do like the design, then you download and print and go from there. Easy peasy. MUCH better than the option now where I can only really cast a vote if I use a print profile, which I have only done once or twice (and the second time it messed with my print settings in ways I really didn’t like, and is why I don’t do it anymore. But I should still have a say in the design rating. It’s kind of a no-brainer
Design is not to personal. A print can have perfect profile but prints terrible because it is a bad design for printing, breaks easy etc. If i don’t print the profile i can’t rate this. I hate scrolling through checking every design because there is no proper rating system.
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I believe the current concept in MW is:
Like (thumbs up) = model/design’s rating
Rating (1 to 5 stars) = print profile’s rating
But the differentiation is not clear to most users, imho.
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not clear and, more importantly, insufficient. I want to be able to RATE a design
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That’s the print profile. If a model is printable, it prints without problems if you enter the correct parameters and angle it correctly. The word itself says the design, and it depends on taste. There are boosts and the evaluation of the press profile, as well as comments, adding more would serve no purpose other than increasing the trolls and we already have enough
The other platforms do not have the printing profile, you do not print directly from your mobile phone, do not make unnecessary comparisons, they are different systems and this is what differentiates Bambu
Just because someone doesn’t have a bunch of design work under their belt, doesn’t mean they should be disqualified or ignored when giving an opinion. A design can be bad, or not function well, and be obvious as such, without having to have a ton of experience in design itself. If something doesn’t work, it doesn’t work.
It’s easy as a designer to get highly attached to your own work, and it can be difficult to face criticism. Sometimes I feel like my fellow designers around here really struggle with that, and seem to put a lot of effort into masking any sort of criticism of their work.
Fact is, people use the ratings or the profiles to rate the models because they want a way to voice their opinion on the model itself. It’s not enough to just have a thumbs up, especially if you find issue, or have criticism. People want a way to express themselves, good or bad.
I get negative reviews all the time. I get valid ones, and I get silly ones. The overall ratings tell a clearer picture though. I don’t have anything taken down, bad rating wise. I just let it be. I got one today, was a 3 star review and openingly questioning why they didn’t just buy something like it off of aliexpress instead. It’s annoying and frustrating, it didn’t rate the profile, but it’s not out of line either. The point brought up in it was entirely valid within it’s own right. I’d just be close minded to ignore it or wave it off. Maybe my design wasn’t for them, so if anything it makes me want to emphasize my focus as a designer, in that my focus isn’t on price, but on design, strength, and utilizing hardware for an even better/smoother/easier to assemble experience.
I think Makerworld needs a way to rate the models themselves. That may hurt some people’s feelings. It’ll likely hurt my feelings at some point, and bad ratings have hurt my feelings already, so. Shrug.
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You don’t get it. Rating a profile is rating the design because 90% time a print will fail because of design NOT profile. But i guess you never rate profiles.
In your point rating a print profile is pointless. It serves no purpose. It should be removed.
Now getting personal is totally uncalled for just because we disagree with you.
- Being a maker has no bearing on fact.
- Calling calling us trolls just rude and disrespectful.
Problem is
You have 2 spinners…
Number one has 1000 downloads 100 likes. viewed 5000000 times because it been around for ever, looks good in picture and model. but it spins terrible.
Number Two has 100 downloads 10 like. viewed 5000 times, looks good also, much better spinner that works…
Right now there is zero way to tell that number two is better.
Edit: was replying to post that got edited:D
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Yes agree sucks to get rated bad.
But at same time healthy to have good rating system .
One thing rating system can do is say every 10 rating automatically remove worst rating from all rating given… That way removes random silly rating. or if model fixes are made rating have a way recovering to perfect score.
This is a completely off-topic reply. MW is NOT what makes BL different LOL. You are making a lot of silly not-the-point arguments for no reason. Printing from your phone? That’s nice, but irrelevant to my initial statement. Other sites not having printing profiles equally not pertinent to my original statement. You really need to sit back and focus friend. This is about the lack of ability to rate a design, nothing more LOL
While I’m sure I’ll get raked over the coals but how can you rate a profile? I’d wager a good bit of the files uploaded are stock profiles with changes on the wall count and the infill.
The few I’ve uploaded for ones that didn’t have a profile were simple based on stock with changes that I felt made sense for printing, or simply the stock profile so someone can download and print. No skill there and even though it’s really the only way I get points I often wish I would have known I could have given them to the creator. I didn’t realise this for quite a bit and feel bad for it.
Creating a profile reallly isn’t something that should be rated as the vast majority were actually created by Bambu or Orca as default .2 profiles. There are exceptions from thoughtful designers. Now I’m not saying they aren’t, but I think that’s just common sense and should be excluded from ratings. Even when there are changes by others they’re basic, or a points grab. Anyone remeber the “FAST” profiles awhile back?
This is why I only download models that have profiles by the designer (except back when I needed something specific and like the design). My rating goes where it should, to the designer, who did both.
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Can you explain to me where on the platform you can’t express your opinion on the design? Comments are free, the star rating of the press profile is already there and is the same a chaos because there are people who evaluate at random These claims are absurd and no, I don’t agree that a novice claims to judge a model according to how he wakes up in the morning, with the same profile system which only causes harm instead of adding value What’s wrong with the comments under the models Or the aim, as already happens, is only to undermine the work of others We know very well that there are too many dishonest people on this platform
Sorry if I’m intruding. But aren’t you capable of writing under the comments? You’re making a fuss about nothing. In fact, you don’t understand what you’re missing
He can’t reply right now…
The irony.
But you can’t search by that…
In what sense to search? I do not understand
Who are you refering to with your question/comment?