Ratings don't mean anything anymore

i let this one finish , those supports and fuzzy skin , to prove a point not blame the creator or tell him his default settings are wrong (i tried to replace the failed support, but it just failed and kicked the bobble of again)

I also left this print to finish , but replaced it with this one

I’m pretty new to all this and I’m still Struggling to understand it all.

If I understand correctly I am supposed to down load a model and print it with out making any changes to the profile?

And then I am supposed to rate this profile based on some criteria ?

There is no way to rate the model itself ?

You are correct. Here are the guidelines…

Boosts and Comments. There is no direct way.

Well Darn I have really been screwing up.

Every model I have ever downloaded I immediately change the settings to what I know my printer likes.

I dont feel like I have enough experience to tell someone that their print profile is bad.

In that link half the guidelines are about the model and not about the print profile.

Refine mesh; improve model tolerance

Provide assembly steps or PDF guide

Missing parts; breakage; misaligned joints.

On the boosts, I only get one or 2 per month, do I just randomly boost people, how do I choose ?

Out of all the models I have downloaded there have only been 2 that I would say are bad models and I don’t know that the creator didn’t intend them to be exactly that way, so who am I to judge.

I wanted to pass by, but literally a minute ago I received another bad review, which will be deleted.

I have one popular model that sometimes gets bad reviews. I report 99.9% of such reviews because all of them contain at most 5 words, not a single photo and many of them make it clear that user is fundamentally deprived of intelligence.

At first, I tried to ask leading questions to understand the essence of the problem, but I was ignored by all the authors of such reviews and I came to the conclusion that I will not waste a second of my time on such people. If you are unable to spend significantly less time on an adequate review than I spent on creating a FREE model, then you will receive a report on the review without investigation.

And in general, it seems that a bad review is a way for everyone to harm the author, but in no way contribute to the correction of errors, and I believe that the second should be the main goal.

I’ll go even further: I’m in favor of users receiving fines for reviews like “it’s broken,” and for a certain number of them, getting banned from comments and reviews.

Didn’t know that MW gives out this advice when the printing runs into problems. Now if only people actually read! :slight_smile:

Why bother reporting the occasional bad reviews? A popular model probably gets many good reviews. As long as the overall rating is >=4, no need to care.

That’s why I always read the comments. Real feedback means more than “stars”. Anyone wanting to find out about a print should read about the print first, then look at the comments. Failure to use the proper filament would be glaringly obvious thus ignored! At least as far as I go!!

I also report reviews that consist of just a few words and contain no photos. At the same time, I block such users so that they can no longer submit reviews nor view my 3D models. Why should users be rewarded for their laziness when they clearly lack the necessary mental maturity?

Simply ignoring the issue is not a viable solution. Bambu should realise from the reports that users are dissatisfied with the system. Above all, there are people who leave negative reviews and create a stressful atmosphere in the comments.

Ultimately, people can handle it however they want, but it’s Bambus’s fault for not giving creator the option to turn off comments. Above all, who ends up looking bad? Is it Bambu or me when a few fools post incorrect information in the comments? It also depends on the sorting. Unfortunately, the most helpful comments are not necessarily at the top. Often, the dumbest ratings and comments were pushed to the top by the system.

That said, I’m not referring to negative reviews that have a photo and are written in a reasonable manner.

I never thought of that! I would get more of an idea about the product.:wink:

I think they need to put in a first step about contacting the designer or leaving a comment without rating.

I had seen comments without ratings before so I had an idea I could go do that…

I don’t post pictures with my reviews for two reasons: 1 I don’t do my reviews using a phone so it is a PITA to get a picture., 2. I rarely post less than a 5 star review. When I have a print that fills I assume it is my settings and I do it all over. If I think the print is a 5, because it printed, looked, and functioned as described, my picture adds nothing to my review.

This doesn’t concern you. It’s not about positive reviews, but negative ones missing photos, detailed description and this rule. I quote the wiki:

If your printing experience did not meet expectations and you rate it 1–3 stars, consider including information such as:

  • A clear and detailed description of the issues encountered
  • The print settings or materials you used
  • Photos of the print results to make the problem more visible and allow the creator or other users to assist you

It still is about positive reviews. I think you should add pictures to any review if you can. It just makes life easier.

Even on bad reviews, if you explain well enough, there is no need for a picture, but of course 99 percent of people do not explain good enough.

For example,

They say the fit is poor, but do not explain where the fit is poor. Now if they said something like “Part 1 struggles to fit into Part 2”, that is enough in most cases. Now the “Produces a lot of poop” comment, I just though that was hilarious considering this is the Concorde model by @planes01 .

Back to the point I was trying to make in this topic.

Lets use the same concorde model as an example. There are 3 profiles on that model, they all have ratings at 4.7 to 4.9 stars. Those are great ratings in my book. But they tell the true story because they are still allowing lower reviews without reporting them for misinformation. It tells the truthful story of how people are interacting with the model. Most people think it is great, some people complain about the quality, some people complain about warping. While those are all true, although maybe a little harsh. Those are things that someone printing this would expect if they read the comments before printing it. Not “this is perfect and nothing will go wrong” then to be shocked when something goes wrong. And of course a lot of the time it is a difference in printer settings, but some models are harder to print than others, that is just going to happen.

When I want to download a model that looks good I really appreciate the users who have downloaded and printed before me posting pictures. It shows physical proof that the print works and looks good or not regardless of the review.

As a novice in making models it also really means a lot to me personally to see that someone else in the world created something from my design so I like it when they provide a picture as well! Perhaps the novelty will wear off on that but right now it is a thrill that someone thought something I made was worth printing and sharing.

I have to admit I tend to only post pictures of the objects that have thrilled me and only if I am not feeling lazy.

I was referring to my comment and how the user quoted me. I think you overlooked that? :thinking:

My comment was about breaking the current rules. The user replied that he doesn’t upload photos at positive reviews. I replied that these rules don’t apply to him in the case of positive ratings. MakerWorld only requires a photo in the case of negative reviews.

I don’t mind if every review has a photo. :grin: :+1:

Can’t think of it as one sided. Adding pictures should be encouraged on both positive and negative reviews. Maybe I am reading into it too much, but the opposite was taken.

Ever watch suits? “The rules dictate that you must be precise, as the law is a very precise endeavor”. Of course this is not law, but it is applicable to this.

There are currently no “rules” that require you to add a picture on a negative review or a positive review. Everything is written as a suggestion. In my opinion, this is one of the big issues with Makerworld, nothing is written in stone. Even with the real print image “suggestion”, if no one is expected to follow that, where is the expectation that these “suggestions” should be followed.

I agree with you 100%, it’s always been that way and it will never change.

I would just like to remind of the drama surrounding the exclusive program, how it was introduced and how it was completely random which projects had the necessary creative level and which did not.

At the end of the day, it’s a coin toss whether support will enforce the rules or not, and it’s actually a constant topic of discussion here in the forum. I’m just repeating what you already know.

Just like you, me, everyone here is just expressing their opinion, and there is little hope that anything will change. MakerWorld has set a course that they will not deviate from. You’ve already seen topics of mine where I complain about exactly these kinds of issues, but I’m aware that nothing will change, and if they do, then only in tiny little steps.

Strictly speaking, almost all rules are just kind of “suggestions”, because you never know whether they will be enforced or not.

Completely agree, but there is also a big difference between presenting something as a suggestion and presenting it as a rule.

But here’s the twist: If someone posts a negative review, for example, and you report it because a photo is missing. MakerWorld also deletes this review because of the missing photo…

…is it a rule or a suggestion?