Real bed temperature is way off? (up to 20°C)

Hello everyone.

I have a X1C for roughly 1.5 years and have always experienced substantial bed adhesion problems with all filaments despite trying all common suggestions. Recently when the bed was at 70 degrees Celsius I noticed that I can touch it for a long time without it hurting so I started to doubt the temperature reading.

I have measured the bed temperature with two different devices: a short range IR thermometer and a digital cooking thermometer with metal contact probe. Both give substantially different readings than the printer (see photo’s)

When the printer claims 70°C:

  • IR measures ±60.1°C.
  • Probe measures 61°C.

Bed at 110°C:

  • IR measures ±91.7°C.
  • Probe measures 94°C.

The probe was clamped between the bed and PEI sheet and allowed to warm up for a few minutes with the door nearly closed.

The IR measurements have been performed multiple times on the black textured PEI, across the build plate, at ±3cm distance and against it, and even with a warmup time of roughly an hour.

As a benchmark I tested the probe on boiling water and the IR thermometer on my body temperature and a 70°C oven, which both measured correctly.

I used to have an Ender 3 which almost never has adhesion problems. But on the X1C probably 40% of my prints fail (rough guess). The temperature being way off might be the problem.

For low temperature filaments such as PLA I can just go higher but ASA and PC needs 100°C to 110°C which the printer apparently can’t reach.

Has anyone encountered this problem? I can’t find similar posts with such a big difference.

I can’t find information about the temperature sensor in the bed, I guess it cannot be replaced separately?

Any advice to fix this apart from a new bed?

If you really think there is something wrong and a difference between your measurements and other peoples I’d try replacing these before I tried a bed replacement.

Then maybe this:

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Thanks for the tip. Didn’t know about that heatbed interface board, worth a try.
Replacing the cable seems like a crazy amount of work (looking at the wiki).
Perhaps also need to check with Bambu for warranty.

Could be the actual sensor too, only $5.

The temperature sensor isn’t available right? I only see the pressure sensor in the store.

Yes, it’s there. Here’s all the parts for the X1C bed…

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I don’t see it. " Heatbed Sensor Unit" is the pressure sensor for bed leveling.

Rest is signal cable to connect the bed to the board and interface boards to connect ther sensors

Sorry, you’re right.

You’re right, made an assumption on my part.