well, if you want to be three years ahead of the competition again, why not? you have to set new standards… at… 
and this standard is not set where something is possible, but at the bottom, where everyone else has to go again…
It would basically destroy their ecosystem Nobody’s buying an X1C, P1S, or A1 anymore if they can get a dual nozzle larger printer (probably 350 by 350) for the same price.
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Who says it will have the same price?
if you don’t want to devalue your old models, invent something new that is simply not comparable… and the 2nd generation will certainly not consist of just one model…
Why would you think it’s a P1S then? If its not the same price, doesn’t have a remotely similar name, doesn’t look like a P1S, is 150% the size of a P1S and has 2 nozzles then it’s just not a P1S. It’s just a new model.
Bambu labs registered those 2 names under there company. “H2D” and “AMS 2 pro” were officially registered under there company name bambu labs at the end of the year 2024.
If a company registered a product name officially, noone else can take it. This name has to be registered so everyone else can look up that registered names for products.
For example: Tesla wanted to call there Model 3 originaly Model E, but that “Model E” was already taken from another company, so they went with the next best name “Model 3” to complete there “SEXY” with the car Model names. Just that the “E” now is a “3”. Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y.
And that is no rumor, this is a fact you can look up. That those 2 names “H2D” and “AMS 2 Pro” are now registered under Bambu Labs company name.
Thats why everyone is talking about those names now, and as Bambu labs also told us with there last officiall post, that the next printers are above the X1 series. And those are the registered Names from Bambu labs.
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So is BambuLab X1S, together with X1C, but to the date no X1S was ever manufactured. Registered names protect against other parties using the same or similar names. It doesn’t mean that a product with that name will also come out.
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Me~goes to copyright the x2s, h2s and ams2 no pro
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yep…
and the remaining up to 25 missing arsehole characters on a wire
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No, because they have explicitly stated that their next printer is their new flagship and trademarking H2D ahead of XYZflagship would make zero sense if the flagship is going to launch first.
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So ya think they’re releasing multiple printers at once? Yeah I highly doubt that.
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Yeah, the same reasoning was applied prior to the A1 series launch, of a bigger, better, more functional printer, to step over the X1 series… The result of all that waiting and reasoning was the A1 launch… Who can really claim to know what intentions and/or plans Bambu does have for the next one. Suppositions and guesswork might keep us busy and debating (for a while), but even this “cat 'n mouse” game will eventually become to old to be kept “playing”…at least for some of us.
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I still engage because its one of the few decent conversations left. Its one of the few things people will consistantly agree on(that they want to see the new new). I try starting other conversations but it never gains traction. Not sure if youve noticed, but over time, the forum became 99% complaint department. I skim through and try to help people because i feel bad for people having problems, but the forum could really use actual bambu support workers. Feels like working for free at a certain point. The anti-new user attitude has died off. That is nice
@Zammer3D Releasing 2 is kinda the only way to not make a big chunk of people feel left out, after this wait. Some have already felt that when the x1e or even the bedslingers were released. Completely based on me thinking it will cost a few grand. I think a flagship between $3,000 and $5,000 could have a stripped down model between $1,500 and $2,500. Something like a scaled up p1s could go for $1,500 and the ceo already said scaling up is the easy part. Then throw all the new bells n whistles on the flagship.
Those bells n whistles make it into v2 of the 256mm printers. Rinse and repeat. I would also drop the p1p and just keep 2 printers for each of the 3 lines
Lmao, already found an example.
Edit. Wanted to put this here as a reminder of what to expect.
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I think they probably misjudged where the market would be at this point in time. If it costs more than $2K, it will have to be “extraordinary” and “gotta have” or else some people (maybe a lot of people) will go buy the K2 or Plus 4 for budgetary reasons because they offer more capability than the X1C or they will go buy Elegoo Carbon based on budget alone. If Bambu knows that launching would be a failure, then they’d probably rather not launch. And they haven’t.
I hope I’m wrong, but any normal company would at least be dropping some hints by now. Hard to imagine how a company that’s practically floating on money may have missed the mark, unless it’s a textbook example of GroupThink or something like that.
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Exactly. I would also add that higher costs, even with mindblowing features, have limits; otherwise, they risk missing the prosumer desktop printer market. This seems well defined, accounting for the X1C, K2Plus, CoreOne prices and even lower, such as Plus 4, etc.
As it happens with the X and P series. Yet, the discarded features can’t be core, with the risk of severely affecting the BL ecosystem.
I have been quite curious for a long time to see what BL will bring in their new flagship, but I am still unsure if they will keep the compromise of performance/cost, as they did with the X1.
I know that many have another opinion, but for me, the K2 Plus (despite Creality’s known issues) release, at that price tag, set up a mark on the 3D printer market, which competitors can’t ignore.
My viewpoint is solely speculation, and it is likely to be wrong, considering that BL has already surprised us in the past.
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Probably why the October launch was scrapped.
I bet it was going to be K2 Plus equivalent for 2x the price.
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And Creality printers prices drop pretty quickly as they turn out new variants so often. If theres still nothing from Bambu Lab soon (or its not as impressive as speculating has been) I’ll prob just snag a K2 when it drops since my biggest want is a bigger print surface
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Pricing matter aside for now, I think that a real and serious deal breaker would be for the new printer to come with the Connect stuff and the highly dubious new firmware pre-installed.
Buying a 3d printer that must be connected to the internet at all times, in order to print and operate it, and more specifically being fully and completely dependent upon Bambu’s cloud (this applying to the “LAN mode” also) translates for me into a clear NO GO decision, no matter how groundbreaking might the new printer be, in terms of creativity and innovation. But then again, that’s just me thinking out loud.
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I actually was thinking part of the delay is because of trying to get the new firmware working and released in new printer out of the gate. Since its already hitting the X1C (so i’ve heard, i dont have an X) I can’t imagine it wouldnt already be on whatever the new printer is going forward
They might be launching more than one model, so concurrently launching the very limited appeal H2D might not be considered as risky.
Launch or not, they are in hand now.
How do you know that they are in hand?
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