Speculation about new printer announcements

At this point just go to 200%, hell 300%…I mean quit the PU-SEE footing around and just send it. Lets just burn this thing out already cuz prices are already stupid

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The Chinese officials have clearly stated that any further tariffs changes made by the US will be simply ignored by China, as at 125% tariff no one in his right mind in China will want, or afford, to import US products…

Lucky you! I wish WE had no tariffs :canada: :us:

I know, but at this point seems like its just to see who will break first and back down, so they might as well just continue going to troll Trump lol

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And? Just as a sidenote.

The only way to wealth is through poverty of needs. Chinese can crawl on the ground looking for food and a way (if needed), while the American or the European will given up and accepted starvation as the smaller trubel - so who will win? New Vietnam?

On the other hand, the EU generation before me was still used to digging up football fields to plant potatoes. And I look for an replaicment for the X1C so I can keep machines running (Seals, clutch buffers and and and and even a 20 cent TPU part coult be really needed to keep something running) and not for the next toy printer to sail on etsy…

Just as a sidenote, yes, the Chines never will buy any US product by 125% Tarfics - the US may do have no option to charge 200% even 300%:

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CNCKitchen has a long Q&A with Dr. Tau about the H2D:

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He gave a more nuanced explanation of the carbon rod tradeoffs, in a previous interview I hazily remember him directly acknowledging them as a mistake.

The dynamic is interesting, even exciting and it will be really interessting how this turns out. A 650k YouTuber makes a video about Bambu. I quickly skimmed the topic titles. There will be for sure people who are interested, and there will also be people were the H2D is suitable. The flagship will certainly or hopefully not be sunk in the first attack like others. There will certainly be enough people looking for…

And then comes a 900k YouTuber along and makes a video about his brand-new X1C.

Well, in the case of the cnckitchen interview of Dr. Tau, it was a long interview, but very little new seemed to be said. It mostly danced around familiar topics.

One tidbit was that Tao believes the new visual calibration plate will largely eliminate XY skew.

Also, reading between the lines, it seems larger printers are unlikely, at least anytime soon. Among other things, they seem to doubt that users have the space or can handle the weight.

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Refreshing that someone compares the M5 to the A1 which loves the A1`s. For me the printers takes ofer lode of the X1C, where the X1C is simply gets too capable and therefore too expensive to do the job, the M5s will print.

The comparison of someone who goes to the A1, and he is nice so his opinion must be right whatever it is, will be interesting.

Just a quick note: the M5 is good, but for me, it’s already the end-of-life printer that won’t be replaced anymore. Misprint detection isn’t just for printers costing $1,000 or more. At least for me, this time is over— Old M5 on my side being ripped off to keep the others M5 running, even though the M5 are still under warranty. But what to do if is there a guarantee but the life expectancy is gone? Thats life… I never bought the Flashforge flagship “Ultra” either, although it was interesting

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@Hank
The trouble with these types of video comparisons is that they aren’t full apples-to-apples. I own a AD5M Pro, and I would add that the software integration on Bambu is better, and the Bambu has a poop shoot and a more competent nozzle wiper, which the Flashforge lacks. For his scenario, I would think the Bambu would be the better choice, unless he needs an enclosed printer.

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Better software, yes. Wiper, yes, he mentioned that. For closed devices, quite likely with P1S, I agree.

I still have one of the Pro models left, just in case ASA comes out and it’s urgent. The X1C Bambulab is at home, not at work. I would never connect it to the network there anyway…

But whatever, it will be interesting to hear what a convinced and experienced A1 printer user thinks. Especially since there are currently completely different models on the way…

Sorry for this add. but thats the actual hot topic and the video just comes out:

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INDX is great idea.

Ever since i saw this:

I thought that this is THE way to go in regards to “toolchangers” that don’t really change tools (it’s all printhead).

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This is a comparison done by the same guy that @hank likes. In some ways, I like this guy better than the higher profile youtubers. At least he’s down to earth:

For me the most interesting part, because few others talk about it, was how much quieter the H2D was than the X1C. He doesn’t seem to know that the standard distance for measuring decibel is 1 meter away, not here, there, and anywhere. Nonetheless, he gave enough info that one can do a conversion to the standard distance, so I’m not holding that against him.

Noise was a big reason my wife wanted my 3D printers in the garage, but the H2D may be quiet enough it doesn’t face exile. Air filtration on the X1C was a bit of a joke, IMHO, but if the H2D delivers, then it may turn out to be quite good for indoor use. It would also be consistent with what one would expect from a more professional printer. So far, no youtubes have really addressed that in any quantitative way, at least none that I’ve yet seen.

In contrast, this other guy (alias “talking hands”) has some serious concerns about support layers using different materials:

He sounds competent, but one just never knows. Tao did indicate that they would be improving the firmware over the next few months, and maybe this is an area they will improve. Fingers crossed :crossed_fingers: because I think it may be a big reason why at least some people would want to buy an H2D, and it was the highest on my list of reasons as well. I didn’t see the guy use the calibration plate, and maybe it would help? Who knows. I can’t imagine why else it might fail though. It’s gotta be either X, Y, or Z. No reason, at least not yet, to think it is fatally flawed in this regard if it is able to successfully shift between nozzles on a multi-color print, as has been demo’d to death. Only thing I can think of is that maybe the purge tower has trouble if the filaments don’t want to stick. After all, that’s what’s guiding the filament selection in such an application.

PS He did say that he relied 100% on the supplied bambu print profiles and didn’t attempt any tweaking. That leaves a lot of room for potentially finding a solution. In any case, I think a good test print to try would be this, as you want your test prints to find problems, if there are any to be found, not gloss over them. That way, after you clear up any problems that you may find when the stakes are low, you don’t run into any surprise problems in the course of printing whatever your ultimate print objectives are.

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She only wants the printers in the garage - now I’m getting jealous :slight_smile:

No comment about his H2D video, by this man I go immediately into Bambi protector mode :slight_smile: Like by Macy Makes 3d, no matter what they ever they would say, I just will give a hug, bake a cake and will drinking some coffee together :slight_smile:

They came to 3D printing through Bambulab and operat in this closed ecosystem. Their development, his first encounters with non-Bambulab printers, this is something very special isn`t it?

Yes, indeed, quite impressive! 4 separate toolheads on a Voron 0. That opens up some interesting possibilities at what I presume is much lower cost than a Prusa XL. Good proof of concept by Bondtech.

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Now imagine this on orangestorm giga :stuck_out_tongue:

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The cost and size are of course a topic - but there is more, anyone can cram electronics into something. Anyone can simply buy something with money or simply make something bigger with money. With even more people who will then all know exactly what they can do and how to handle and know exactly what others want (but will never understand what they can’t do).

The masterclass, however, is keeping things simple and elegant. For example, the Porsche design. If this is happen, I only know of one comparable story in 3D printing and that was the X1C (if it is hapen). When I see something like that, I see something like a “Rembrandt” - there’s simply so much more to it than currently anyone else can do.

Well, you can always get it cheaper but with the Porsche design one thing counts: One line more or one line less and it’s no longer the same.

Had to laugh from the heart :slight_smile: Something like that on a Sovol SV08 (maybe an improved version) with a case and I would be more than happy.

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Seriously, you should send that idea to Bondtech. It would net them more publicity than they could ever buy. The ultimate Medusa! :scream: Might have to release the Kraken to contain all the magical capability such a monster might unleash. …and maybe in the process they could fix the oangestorm giga while they’re at it. :rofl: The machine that completely defeated 3D Printing Nerd to the point where he had a total meltdown, livestreamed on youtube.

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Well i already note Macy Makes 3d. A pure Bambulab user who may nobody can’t be angry about anything.

What I have overlooked so far, she has already confirmed that a pure Bambulab user, never used something else, can simply switch the printer :slight_smile:

What I am now 100% convinced of is that the latest generation of printers delivers.