Speculation about new printer announcements

I think an X2C will be incoming, they need a price point between the P2S and the H2S.

It makes good business sense.

What it will include is an interesting question as they put more in the P2S upgrade than made business sense.

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Is it to late to guess a P2S might be announced soon?

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Bambu, very much like Creality, and unlike Prusa, doesn’t have a ā€œtraditionā€ in providing upgrades to its existing (older) printers. Instead, Bambu chooses to launch new versions that lead customers to purchase the new ones, and eventually to sell their older ones… Those holding on their older printers ensure that Bambu is not left with old spare parts in stock, even if sold at a lower price.
Overall, I don’t think we will ever see any upgrades for the older printers. After all, Bambu, according to their own ToS and warranties, plan to terminate support and updates for the ā€œP1ā€ and ā€œX1ā€ series in just a few years from now, so it stands to reason that Bambu won’t invest in any upgrade kits for these models.

Actually, the most intelligent move I’ve seen from Bambu Lab in the past two years — I’d even go so far as to say: It was a clever one after publishing the X1C. I just skimmed through another video — actually quite nice. A nice movement to let the X1C die and get the P1P/P1S into the spot lite below the U1 in pricing.

So for sure a nice Printer but in my case, just bad Timing. There are other points were competitors just overtake. So a nice printer but my AMS are def. done and all motors need to by changed. They are def. done. Slot 2 and 3 is still working but it comes to an end… I think something of 5000 hours on the AMS (The printer has more).

So a nice printer, but for me just the wrong timing (and competitors how overtake on other point which get my interests :wink:

But Hank did you see the promotional material for this thing?

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Recycled joke of my own.

Be warned, much laughing ahead

Is it just spaghetti or all varieties of Pasta?

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Nice new profile photo! :slight_smile:

Thats a god note! However, just my point of few:

And? Nice but no needs. The problems of my in 3D printing are not that big as by soft Alu wire were you need 4 pull by 8 push wheels. on the other hand, my TPU problems are solved 1 year ago - I do not have time to wait until im broken :wink:

If an ā€œautomated kitchenā€ can drive somewhere just for a video, I guess I can still talk to my neighbors or talk to persons getting quickly on side for very exclusive problems. A very well-hidden joke :smile:

Actually, some printers are starting to have problems when feeding TPU — especially on the S1.

Personally, I never need TPU below 95A. My main issue, which I’ve mentioned many times, is this:

If I have to fix something — and print heads are usually the first parts to be sold out — I don’t even get the chance to handle them or make adjustments directly on the printer. And if i can save the money on poop for 4 heads, I def. will…

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I must admit they went farther on the P2 than I expected them to, well done. I do think the cost is still too high when you consider the AMS. It at least is using premium parts to the counterparts in that arena of corexy-with-filament-changer so maybe it can satisfy the price disparity.

X series is looking mighty old now. I struggle to think of what future niche that will carve that the new P2 and H series haven’t obsoleted. Maybe heated chamber in a refresh, but that alone isn’t all that worthy of another SKU. I see an opportunity for a tinkering and moddable product built on their kinetics [see, sovol], but that sorta thing doesn’t seem to be compatible with bambu’s business model

Sign me up! That may be the most important differentiator of them all, and none of the youtube reviewers I’ve seen even mentioned it!

I’ve experienced enough blob of death’s over the years that avoiding more is an absolute must whenever possible.

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Before learning about all the particulars of the ā€œrefreshā€, I had hoped that ā€œrefreshā€ meant there might be a path whereby a version 1 could could be upgraded to become a first class version 2. However, the changes seem so extensive that I’m no longer hopeful that doing so would be practical, even if it were possible. It might be like upgrading a Prusa Mk3 to a Prusa CoreOne" there’s not enough of the original printer left to justify all the time and effort and money in doing it.

What do you all think? Will it be possible? If it is possible, would it be practical?

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Oh yes :innocent:

1. The only sustainably repaired printhead is a replaced one.
2. If you want to know whether the problem is the printhead — just mount the spare one. Properly 90% of your problems start right there. So you at least know, it`s the pinhead how is damaged :wink: (or any of the countless circuit boards on it?!)
3. The best case - Swap the whole head for fifty bugs and mount a new one :wink:
4. The best printers? The one I really like? Those were you get the print head out of the machine and in your hand within in 30 seconds…

Eception, if I get every 2 weeks one for free and never need to repair one :slight_smile: So way this motor ever should by noticed by reviewers :wink:

It could be coincidence, with the X1C presently ā€œsold outā€:


but given the timing of it, it might be that it has been officially discontinued, just not announced. After all, given the new reality of the P2S, who would want to buy it anymore, except maybe during this transition phase because the P2S hadn’t started to ship yet?

Speaking of which, better to sell now than wait any longer, unless you plan to keep it for the long-term.

If I were a print farm owner who had bet the farm on buying a ton of X1C’s, I think I’d be rather pissed about the lack of upgrade path. Having some kind of trade-in program, like for cell phones, would ease the blow, but I don’t see why Bambu would offer that other than as a loyalty reward. For some reason samsung does it, but I don’t know how samsung justifies it. On the other hand, maybe print farms just burn through prniters and throw them out after n hours of use rather than be bothered with it. I’ve heard that some do operate that way, at least with less expensive 3D printers.