Agreed, its great to see what unites people. LOL The guy OP is dealing with is a special kind of piece of ■■■■. Makes it worth it to try to mess up his game. No one likes a Dick. Especially one like this guy.
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That is one approach but would make it also impossible for a lot of hobbyists to use them as well at home for good.
Yep its our forum so we get to complain and whine all we want, since we do apprecite this platform and want it to be better. But if anyone tries to F one of us…they better be careful lol
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Well my item is off of his store, so. Guess something happened. 
Ahh, it’s a different kind of pace with doing stuff for 3d printing. I keep it relaxed and usually keep it simple. Although lately I’ve got myself involved in a few more complex projects. I love seeing this stuff become reality though. So much of what I’ve made over the years has just gotten lost in the mix. There’s a certain rewarding expierence that comes from designing for 3d print. It’s why I love to share my work too! Even with guys like that etsy seller… I think it’s way too enjoyable to create and share these ideas.
I’ve thought about this. I’m not sure how good I’d be at running an Etsy shop though. I’ve been thinking about going the Patreon route. Could focus on design, get support for doing it, and encourage others to muscle those fools out with licensed sales 
A bit like family. Arguing with each other, but if outside forces are causing troubles, united to cause trouble back. 
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I would recommend that you report his listing(s) on Etsy for any of them with trademark violations - it’s not so much that he is selling your design, it’s that you can’t sell anything with another company’s logo / trademark (Hasbro / Monolpoy) on them without having licensing from that company - he’ll get his Etsy shop closed down.
Hmm my takeaway here is
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if you are reselling someone’s collection be sure to print out business cards and a fake website so you can pretend to be OG to venue
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pirate on Etsy seems to work, especially if you aren’t in US
I don’t know any solutions, seems it’s a losing battle to worry about it. Report sure, try to market OG against copy too… sure
Texting back and forth - wtf why even reach out
Etsy’s guidelines recommended reaching out first. I did submit a report to Etsy too, especially after that response. I’m not going to engage someone further that acts like that, for sure.
You’re right! There’s too much life to be excited about to worry about it too much. (I was just venting a little, because uggh really…) I spent the weekend playing with transprent PETG and am plotting my next big design already!
People that steal work; that’s all they can do. That’s why they do it. At the end of the day, I can make all the crazy things that pop into my head. I’m not bound by what others have created. I’m only bound by my own imagination and ability not to be lazy!
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I love this attitude. Every last crazy idea you’ve ever had can now be made reality. You just have to put in the work.
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My too - Came across a genius on YouTube today. He put a big smile on my face and made my day 
On the topic itself and certainly not 100% correct, so use it with caution:
The thing with the pirated copies, even Rolex has done bulldozing operations. The only thing that helps is limiting the damage. May marking… then at least every robbery brings at least some publicity… and anyone who can create a Makerword account will probably also be able to do an account with hostgator. But everyone shouldn’t forget that not only a copyright exist, names can also be protected - so no one want a name that is already used in trademark law.
So just the marking works wonders - but then you also have to prove the date of creation (because then people can also come that you have put your name on there model, so a proof that you were there 5-10 years earlier is may therefore mandatory or maybe helpful when things getting tough) Possibly a non-public time lapse on YouTube? You can always send the link quickly and there will be no more questions where the model came from and when it was drawn… But just the drawing is probably intellectual property, there is still patent law and that is a completely different story
and since when has China not had copying laws? But just be right and get right are two very different things. Than quicker someone understand this, than better it is for himself… and then the lawsuit should be worth it and not cost more than it brings in - otherwise you will go bankrupt by arguing. And just in case it’s a 15 year old who makes some money on Etsy with dad’s 3D printer… In such a case it’s not even worth writing an email … than someone would spend his life with arguing and will earn nothing from it 
And at least the Marking in the beginning probably only brings benefits than damage. If anyone thinks Bambulab is playing with the point awarding at Makerworld Sankt Klaus, this person also believes in the Easter bunny. Then it is probably more likely that the person don’t know how to deal with it yet…
and by the way, the genius who came up with the idea that someone can buy models on Fiver to put them on Merkerworld… Of course, there are only people on Fiverr who never take anything off the internet and sell it on… The Easter Bunny and Santa Claus probably are existing really…
Really interesting discussion here. FWIW I have an Etsy store where I sell models. However, i pay commercial fees to the designers and there logos and provide links to their websites, patreon and discord sites on every listing I have
That is the right thing to do given the time an effort they go to to make the files available to folks like me.
I never sell the actual files only the physical models. I have had two shops removed from Etsy as I discovered they were selling the actual files which they are not allowed to do. I got hold of Etsy and the two designers and let them know what was going on and they also complained to Etsy.
It took a bit of time I remember I had to complain to Etsy three times- i am like a dog with a bone when it comes to getting things done lbut it worked.
I do not have skill set to design my own models and I have the greatest respect for all the guys and gals that are able to design and share their work- so why should they not get paid by offering commercial licences- they deserve the credit.
Some folks are just nasty pieces of work…
All I can ask that the designers continue to do what they do as they are awesome- a big thankyou from me👍
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Here is another shop. https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/ShayboShop?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1670785286&from_page=listing&page=1#items
I doubt any of these designs actually belong to that person. I know at least one doesn’t.
Hi, i read the thread and i was wondering, does none of you apply a timestamp to your projects before publishing them online? Are you aware that works published under Creative Commons licenses are still protected by copyright? Personally, i register all important projects with a system called “Time Stamping” here in Italy, which has legal validity worldwide against intellectual property theft. If i found out someone is illegally using my creative works that do not allow commercial use, i could have them removed from platforms (it has already happened) or take them to court, and with the evidence certifying the date, time, and my personal information as the creator, i could also obtain compensation for the damage.
@Dr_Operator Thats a good one
GREEN LANTERN may on Trademark of DC COMICS
Yosemite Sam Figur Warner Brothers - already in the free public domain?
Star Wars - Is that true?: Intellectual Property of the Galaxy Far Far Away - Gavin Law Offices, PLC
Fortunately, I don’t need to know the answer to that I would feel even uncomfortable if I had placed stuff like that somewhere were he could get it…
Sadly all the evidence is pointless if the Moderator simply rejects it to get their job list done for the day (tongue-in-cheek sort of). I’ve had evidence right down to Fusion history with the original first dimensions screenshotted etc, yet seems the guilty tend to get the free ride here and on Etsy. They know it’ll pass as taking legal action is not so straightforward and unless you have lots of time and money, kind of pointless to start.
Without time-related proof of existence, not a single line goes online… and a screenshot isn’t nearly enough for me.
Does time stamping not happen every time you export a design from your program of choice? Every .stl I create is automatically timestamped with a creation date when I export.
I must be missing something here.
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provide me his name so I can make sure he is not one of my 15,000 members
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After reading this thread and then doing my own searching on Etsy, I think I know how to prevent your designs from being sold as physical prints on Etsy or wherever.
The key is to find a sweet spot of complexity in your designs. You want to make it complex enough that it won’t be worth the time and effort to sell physical prints, but not so complex that hobbyists will avoid it.
Case in point, my Mystery Machine model. It’s 52 individual pieces with some of them requiring glue, hobbyists seem to love it, but no one in their right mind is going to pay $70 for it
I’m assuming it’s only that expensive due to the time and effort required to assemble.
I don’t know if this will help you or not but I happen to know you can contact Etsy direct and report the seller for wrongfully selling your design and they will make the seller take it down and in some cases I have seen sellers banned from Etsy.
Yes. But it may fail to be considered trustworthy.
One timestamp that is easy to authenticate is email. Just email yourself from a trustworthy email account. At least in the EU, I can get legal proof for about 20€.
Yet, it is well known that web copyright laws are still underdeveloped, and the rules aren’t the same everywhere. I often see violations of international companies’ copyrights, but nothing severe happens except, in some cases, being removed after a while.