I found an ebay seller that sells a lot of stolen designs (from contests or popular ones) using photos made by designers of those items (and slightly modifies the photos by removing backgrounds and watermarks)
Iāve seen several others on the sellerās page, most of which have āstandard digital fileā licence, some offer commercial licence via patreon or similar services, but even then - seller uses photos made by model designers and thatās copyright violation in and of itself.
Iāve reported the listing of my model to ebay, Iāll try to reach out to seller to have it removed (or have them buy licence). The seller has over 80 ratings and over 350 items sold on their profile so itās very likely they profited off of models without proper licence
Wonder if a guy could say go buy ten of these from dude and then immediately charge it back āyeah chase, i realized after I bought it that its in violation of copyright laws so it is in fact illegal for me to buy itā. Would do wonders for his ebay profile.
I mean its surely better to approach it in a more professional way at first like you are doing but Iām just built a bit different.
Wellā¦ If you notice anything of yours report to ebay and inform the seller of potential legal action due to violating both model licence and photo copyright. Hopefuly with enough reports ebay will take down seller and/or the seller will succumb under legal pressure.
Did you miss the part where the āCat grooming hedgehogā is Johnny_Bits IP that he designed by himself and fully owns all licensing rights to? I think you must have.
Since krellboy deleted his post I canāt really respond but I do want to highlight something: I only reported my model to ebay and contacted seller regarding my model. I highlight the seller here due to potential violation of other peopleās licence and copyright, after all - if the seller havenāt contacted me I doubt they acquired valid licence from others and the models I highlighted here have licence which prohibits commercial use.
The other issue is use of photos which is under separate copyright law (at least in jurisdictions I know) - so even if model is CC0 (public domain) the photos used to show the model are not unless stated otherwise. Thatās why you need to use your own photos when uploading somebody elseās CC0 model.
s āVK3DPā has already mentioned, my model (Shoe Hanger) is also being sold without my consent. Besides my photos (of my own shoes even ^^) he even copied the description exactly.
I have reported the offer to ebay. I am curious if something will happenā¦
Why would bbl want to do anything about it? What could they do? How many files on makersworld, for example, have been stolen from elsewhere? Have your shoes infringed anything from their manufacturer?
You should all realise, that once youāve posted anythiong on the web, you no longer own it. If you have enough money, however, you can make your own rules.
Thatās incorrect, at least in EU and US. I have some experience with people stealing photos and designs before I did 3D models and āi found it on the webā is not an excuse in the eyes of the law
However what is correct is that BBL is not the entity that can take action unless copyright owners transfer it to BBL or grant them legal representation.
But, the internet is more than the EU and US, and in even in those regions, āthe lawā doesnāt even bother much with shoplifting. You know what the net is like, since few users even use their real names. Why anyone would expect all folk from halfway across the world, or even next door, to bother with licensing agreements is beyond my comprehension. It is up to you to protect your property.
Yes. However itās up to good people to inform others of possible infringement. My wife does custom jewelry and she used to get notification from other people about her designs and photos being stolen - thatās where my experience in handling such issues comes from. And from experience: people stealing photos and designs take them down very quickly on first notice and we only had to employ legal once (and that was worth every penny )
Oh, sorry about that, someone correctly pointed out that you were reporting your own models, which is perfectly legit of course. I just wasnāt in a position to edit and amend the post, so I deleted it.
The other issue is use of photos which is under separate copyright law (at least in jurisdictions I know) - so even if model is CC0 (public domain) the photos used to show the model are not unless stated otherwise.
This issue came up on the site they cloned, they just forgot to clone that part too. On the donor sight, photos must have the same license as the model. That seems like the most sensible approach and Iād wish BL would emulate that part too.
TBH I view models and photos as separate things since photos have value of their own - after all if someone wants to profit off of a model without NC limitations, they could invest a bit of time and shot new set of pics
On top of that, bambu requires users posting print profiles to show photo of print so thatās another reason to do your own photos.
Just a question, have you researched each of your examples and know for sure that the seller does not have a license? I ask as I have seen many times in my group members reported for this when in every case they had a commercial license? We all need to not report such thing off the cuff, but just to be sure of our factcs.
Iām pretty sure OP didnāt give to this āsellerā the right to sell his model on ebay.
If you are a legit seller, you will probably not reusing the creatorās photos without his consent and if you do it, you will certainly not removing the watermarks.
Itās kind of obvious this guy doesnāt have any licence to sell those items.
Iāve already explained: Iāve reported to ebay and contacted the seller only about my model and my photos being used in a way that breaks both licence and copyright. The models I linked as examples met certain suspicious characteristic, such as: model having clear non-commercial licence (standard file licence), photos used from makerworld slightly modified (eg: removing background) which means the seller didnāt even take time to shoot new photos and the models being popular entries in recent contests.
Additionally, another user confirmed my suspicion that the seller does not seek commercial licence and breaks copyright:
Also, as stated by Henlor:
Thereās basically a pileup of evidence against this particular seller.
I could go around and ask people whether the seller did obtain a licence from them but Iām lazy and donāt like bothering people with DMs, so hereās a thread, thereās link to the seller, if anybody sees anything of theirs that they did not licence for commercial use (either by granting the seller licence or by putting out the model without NC restriction) and/or seller breaks copyright on the photos, do report the listing and the seller to ebay and contact seller directly to have them remove the offending listing (or obtain a valid licence, or whateverās legal that you want)
Not only on ebay Not just eBay, now you can find stolen models everywhere, even on cgtrade, Etsy etc.The worst thing is that they steal the model, put it on sale and then report you as copyright without any proof! . I have decided that I will not release any more models, it is just a waste of time and ungrateful people
