Suggestions for MW abrupt license enforcement?

To begin, I’m fairly sure I made a mistake on a model I uploaded that was recently taken down abruptly, with little extra info from MakerWorld. Needless to say this is really disappointing and discouraging, but I have some suggestions for the MW folks to maybe try and improve this experience for amateur creators in the future.

Background: I uploaded a remix from an old Printables model that was released under the Creative Commons 4.0 license. This model is actually a remix itself of an OpenSCAD-based project from GitHub that was released under the MIT license (fully open-source). My model did not modify any STL’s, since there were none to modify. It required generating a number of different STL’s myself, creating the print profiles, putting in variable modifiers in the model, tuning wall strength and variable infills, custom support generation, etc. This was my first remix from an external site, and I might have mistakenly chosen the standard license when creating the project. I choose that for all my original models, so I think this was muscle memory. I did cover all the Creative Commons 4.0 requirements for original attribution, but the license may have been wrong. I say may have been, because when MW abruptly took my project down after it being up for half a year, I have no way of seeing the project to see what was wrong.

I’ve appealed once and then a second time with a ticket, and throughout the process I asked what exactly was wrong. I kept getting the copy-paste of the guidelines. I pointed out I couldn’t see my project to see what I didn’t do correctly, and still the same responses. I even said I likely put the wrong license on it, and would be happy to correct it if that was the case, because it was purely a mistake and oversight if that was really what happened. But it was still met with the copy-paste of the guidelines.

MW made it clear there was no recourse or ability to see what I actually screwed up, just “here’s the guidelines, better luck next time.” This is really discouraging for an amateur creator. I’m not a commercial creator by any stretch, I do this in my spare time and because I enjoy it. I really enjoy sharing my projects with others that find them useful. I don’t know what triggered the issue, and I don’t know 100% what the issue actually was. It’s not the missing 900+ points, it’s really the issue of I don’t know what I did incorrectly, and my project that took a few days off and on to create all the profiles and upload, annotate and upload all my STL’s to share, respond to questions for additional configurations and create/upload them, etc., is now gone.

I’d like to suggest to the MW overlords to find a middle ground here. There was no warning, no notification of any issue, just the hammer. Would it be too much to send a stern warning to a creator if there’s an issue they need to look at ASAP to correct it? If the warning is ignored, then swing the hammer? This could also give an opportunity for a creator to talk with the MW admins to collaborate on making better compliant models, instead of after-the-fact trying to plead a case when they’re not even sure what the original issue was.

I think that they are so bogged down with tickets that this is the only way that they can get through is to have prepared responses.

This is most likely the problem.

I understand your frustration, but what you are proposing would vastly incentivize rule breaking. Why even bother thinking about the rules if the penalty is a warning and a chance to rectify the problem? Just break the rules on every model and fix them if/when they warn you. You’d be stupid not to. It’s like suggesting the penalty for shoplifting should be the store gives you an opportunity to put the item back on the shelf.

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I can see the model can be suspended. Have a running count of these on your account, and then have the hammer come down without the warning.

The real frustration here is despite multiple back-and-forths with MW, nobody would say what exactly was violated. And the model is completely gone. It’s not in draft mode, nothing. So I can’t even see what I might have messed up. So confidence levels of doing all the work again to re-upload things carefully are low that something won’t trip again unknown to me. The lack of transparency makes it difficult to know what to fix in the future. Or even use as part of the plea in the appeal. If I don’t know what actually is the real issue, then I don’t know what to not do in the future.

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I think the problem is that if MW does this, then no one is going to follow any rules because they can always fix it after they get caught.

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