The printer detects the job but can’t download it from the cloud

Only thing is, as you pointed out, bots can monitor all the models. There’s no hiding in the crowd if the bots can see everyone and id everyone. Security through obscurity is getting harder and harder thanks to AI and bots. It never was all that great to begin with but does/did have its uses.

I don’t think that an AI will figure out what a print is by watching what is printed. I see it as much more at risk of after they figure out you worked on a product of interest, they will look at your prints. Even then. If you are selling a product it is much more effective to by the product and reverse engineer it from a part in hand than an undocumented print that is probably not the whole product. I have been knocked off. and millions stolen from me from copyright infringement.
Not saying it is security useless. But the possibility that they are using the data sent to the printer is a red haring. I would be more concerned about the pipeline into your computer to grab valuable info.
The only way to stop the steal is not sell any of it. You want to sell millions to get paid. Ironically produces that are not popular get knocked off much less.

A.I. doesn’t figure out anything (my opinion). It’s an F-Ton of data that it uses to respond to the parameters that have been defined to it. If the A.I. is setup to look at g-code or slice a file to see if the design meets a parameter it is programmed to look for it will, then it will pass on a notification. That’s not saying that anything like that is going on in general on a dailey basis but it is possible.

So the possibility anyone is looking over your shoulder is a red herring and you base that conclusion on just thinking AI can’t figure out what a print is?

AI has all the tools available to it that we do. We can visualize gcode. I haven’t used those tools but in looking at the web sites they say they can visualize the code probably just like Studio can draw you a preview.

Once AI has an image to look at, you really think it can’t at least sort models into Christmas decorations vs. weapons parts or something?

I don’t have the god’s eye view to know what all people are printing or if any is valuable IP or whatever, and obviously, anyone printing anything confidential stuff should know better, but I suspect AI bots can actually figure out a lot of what passes through the servers.

But more than that, I think anyone counting on nobody watching what they are printing when the files flow through Bambu servers is maybe fooling themselves.

It’s a fallacy to think there is a labor overhead cost of monitoring and indexing EVERY SINGLE print uploaded. Your squishy human brain can’t comprehend it, but yet, it remains easily achievable.

What they are likely to do is use this to tune slicers. But I dont think that bambu’s software people are good enough to do this, and likely will just sell it to the highest bidder.

That’s a huge risk. Everyone is basically saying “here’s my portfolio” of things I print and some countries are known for hacking teams that go on hunting expeditions. Not only that but we run software written in other countries. There’s been bigger and more elaborate computer attacks than we are discussing here so it’s definitely possible.

I have no idea how likely it is.

ooooh, spy novel theme… nefarious agent loads a print job that has a special design in it that is a trigger A.I. is watching for. Print job is actuall a copy of a proprietary component or is text suppling super secret squirell info… Contents of print job are shuffled off to Boris and Natasha’s printer in Mr. Big’s lair.

Edit: this is more related to passing on info from point A to point N rather than an outsider (human or non) watching a generic data stream to see what you are up to.

It’s not even spy-novel, in real life, bambu right now has the capability of intercepting your print code, as you upload it to their AWS, and changing it before being downloaded to your printer.

It’s just a text file, and is 1 lambda away from actually interfering

lets say you sell a wiget that you print. In that wiget you mount a battery and LED. An ai would have a big task trying to figure out what the wiget is by what is printed. Lets say you sell 100k wigets. They might buy your wiget and most likely use a different components, that are cheaper for them to source. It is much easyer to reverse engineer from a part in hand than a G-code or even a 3mf file.

Belive me, there are several reasons that:
I only print in LAN Only mode (info still leaks but it’s a little trickier)
My security camera system is home grown and does not use a service
I have nothing resembling Alexa or RING on my property.

You are right, looking at print jobs ad-hoc to steal a money makeing widget would be probably a waste of time. Of course if you knew that specific printers were coming from a corporate R&D facility you could watch for jobs with those associated printer/user ID’s. It is more likely that a general watch of traffic would be for specific prohibited items or things that could be asociated with terrorizum.(SIC on purpose)

Imagine if someone hacked bambu’s S3 bucket that handles the public ftp thing they do.

Adds a lambda that does one thing:

sed -e ‘s/M104 S[0-9]*/M104 S999’

very for-the-lulz and very-lets-start-some-fires

How many days do you think it would go unmitigated? See the current response to the AI slop wave for a sense of their urgency

trying to identify a product by what is printed is a joke.
It might look like a … but is it? There are so many false that it would be useless info.


a shitty 6 year old PC can do this right now, recalibrate your perceptions on what is possible

(my version of satire)… but it’s not like any programs can figure where you are in the world based on just a few (or one) building or geological feature and notify the people that is has recognized posted picture with you in it that they should look at your new travel posting…

why did it not identify the orange face in the photo. what is that is it valuable. It identified the cup. but that is not a cup but a cup used as … Yes it can identify the common but can it identify a sub component to an uncommon object. or how it is novel.

Dont let your memes be dreams, you can experiment with taxonomic AI imaging right now, and tune yours to find background objects too!

This tech is mature now

Yeah, they definitely shouldn’t give you access to S3 with skills like that! :smiley:

It seems cloud printing has started working, at least in Russia and in my city. I was able to send a print job.

What is the advantage for the user to use cloud storage. I see lots of advantages for BL. Some product improvement data, some nefarious. Verses directly to the printer. Some might say Bambu Handy app. But it could be done without the data on the could. Just job info…
I wish it had a job que feature. To be able to line up next plate. I can see how that might need the cloud.
When I contacted BL about queuing, they are taking the stance that queuing is a print farm function.