You know you are in deep s*** when Louis Rossmann makes a video about your product. I love that man
After reading this, I disconnected my two printers from the network. Hopefully, I can print with the SD cards and Prusa slicer. Bambu makes the best printer for the money but this is the end of the line for me. The next time one of my printers needs maintenance, I will dispose of it. I won’t sell it or even give it away. This is not a company that I can trust or do business with.
I have two friends thinking about buying a Bambu. I will advise them against it.
I’m contacting support to cancel my A1-Mini order, which still hasn’t shipped. I would encourage everyone to speak with your wallets and do the same!
I’ve put up with all their restrictions, but this goes too far. I suspect their future roadmap is for some sort of subscription for full cloud use or you’ll be restricted to LAN only mode or something.
Stop the steal my money my printer!
So, how does the mandatory cloud connectivity that they were first only hinting at, and now downright want to enforce - work with your main requirement of reliability?
What happens if their servers ■■■■ out? What happens if your internet connectivity craps out? Those things do happen, and not that infrequently, and they will throw your reliability requirement out of the window.
There is exactly 0 reasons to force everything to go through their cloud short of control, data mining and optional monetization of it. Their cloud doesn’t improve your printing quality or reliability, quite the contrary.
I’ll add one more tidbit. What happens when Bambu stops support in 2028 for their printers as stated in their support agreement? Does it mean that they can at any time disable your printer to force you to buy a new one? You bet that is exactly what this means.
So it’s now three years from now. Bambu decides any X1 or P1 Owner… “Folks, it’s been a great run but time for you to buy a new model”… Now what? How does one sue a Chinese company?
There’s more peril here than just this simple announcement. I was dubious when Bambu cited in their log that they would cease support for some of their products at an arbitrary time. However, this no “protection” is a game changer for the worse.
… or what happens when they introduce a vetting process into what can be printed on their printer, which would be totally in their capability once they force you to go through the cloud?
“Hey, printer, print me this cute Winnie-the-Pooh figurine.”
“I’m sorry Olias, I can’t do that. The Chairman does not approve.”
Hope those who are now writing posts it is not the end of the world User expirience will be much better - Seems value will increase now with that big amount of eager to buy one persons
Sadly, I hasn’t bought an A1 in December and would have gone for my other top choice if I’d known about this decision. I have seen so many companies introduce control under the auspices of security and customer interests.
If they do enforce it, I may well just make a claim on my card as they will have fundamentally changed the operating capability of the machine after purchase.
Hopefully someone high enough at Bambu Labs will realise the market is not buying their BS and will reconsider, even if it’s for financial reasons rather than their customers interests.
If this only said SELL their current printers, I could agree. I doubt that I will do that, unless something degrades further.
But I’m certain there will be no upgrades/purchases from large numbers of us. I can definitely say that for myself. And that’s not a “threat” or “talking trash” whatever else some call it. A threat is someone saying they intend to cause harm or damage; it’s not intended to help the target of the communication make a better decision or to convey useful information to them.
Communication is a good thing - it’s called consumer feedback and a market signal. Those comms are intended to convey useful information and help a business make a more informed decision. Usually companies are very interested when a customer decides to part ways with them.
So yeah, the “trash talk” will continue, if we insist on calling it that. But it should really be understood as consumer feedback with an intent to assist yet another company that’s about to shoot itself in the foot.
It this happens you will have an expensive dust collector on the table or shelf.
And how happy users will be in 2 -3 years when babuns in Bambu says - cost of running servers is high you need to pay now XX$$$ in order to access them :). Or just decide X1 is a 10 year old printer design and has no room on the server and say time you buy new one…
BL, stop the enshittification of your software. I will not update to this objectively inferior version and break OrcaSlicer support. What a joke.
And while we are at it, open up the APIs so we can write private clouds. We do not want or care about your CCP cloud.
And rest assured, once support ends completely and the devices are in danger to be bricked, I will personally dump the firmware and fix this mess myself for everyone, if nobody else has done it before me.
Get ready for subscription services to use your printer.
Did not. Only expressed them again - on some other Forum they thought Im delusional. One was kind enough to mark my comments sarcastic :).
Now only need another Forum or forum thread to determine if the LAN mode will save me from this sh…t. or not. If I use Orca delete Bambu studio and Handy app think should be safe.
Tos can be updated at any point. It’s in the TOS
Here’s the opinion of one of Bambu’s competitors (think K2 Plus Combo)(*)
(*)- All characters and information appearing in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons or businesses, still alive…or dead, is purely, and intentionally, coincidental.
I just bought a Bambu Labs printer (still in return window, but I cant return it since i already activated it) and this is a great way to deter new people from buying more. I don’t understand this update. Yes, a hacker getting access to your printer potentially is devastating since they could just extrude a kilogram of filament and mess up your hotend among other things, but there are better ways to handle this… aka fixing vulnerabilities if they appear and NOT locking in users to their shitty cloud service.
Lan won’t save you. That’s going to require authentication
I’m saddened to hear about this. But I think this sums it up for me:
This is like HP saying you can’t scan/copy without official HP ink/toner in your printer. Which makes me wonder, what’s next… Use the AMS on the X1, you HAVE to use Bambu filament?
I’ll be switching to LAN mode, later on today, and I won’t be updating the firmware or software, unless something changes.