Am not a nationalist, but genuinely unsure if that would be as easy for a Chinese company, in the current landscape and in what is still such a niche sector.
It’s definitely possible as inertia is a powerful thing, we’ll see.
How can you agree that it isn’t a security function? Have you not read the code? drakko posted it at post #313.
Sure, show me in the code. drakko posted it at post:313
From a cursory look at things, it seems to me as if the new Bambu Lab security system looks a whole lot like the one that HP has been using for their printers. I highly suspect that once implemented, they will have about the same effect on average consumers as HP inkjet and laser printers do.
You already have an account. You may not manually log in every time, but you certainly had to be logged in when you posted this. It happens automatically once you’ve been authenticated.
This is a simple message for @BambuLab
Leave my LAN alone. All future purchases are on hold until this condition is met. My planned purchase for this spring is now on hold and I will start investigating your replacement.
// Very disappointed customer
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They are not shutting them out but the LAN changes is a complete overreach and unnecessary. A stupid way to nuke their reputation.
One of the very first things I did when I set up my A1 Combo back in November was to enable LAN mode. I have only used LAN mode ever since - in fact I have never updated any firmware since then. I don’t even know if there have been any updates or not! lol
I do use Bambu Slicer TBH, and just slice and send the print job across to the printer. Saying that, I haven’t updated the slicer since install in Nov either!
On the flip side - I have a Prusa MK4s that I will religiously upgrade the firmware on whenever one is available - both slicer and printer. Eagerly awaiting the CoreONE conversion kit too. That has been, and will be for the the foreseeable future, my print manufacturer of choice, especially after seeing the direction BL are taking.
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Theres an update from Bambulab:
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Have you compared seams made by Orca to those of Bambu Studio…
I can’t go back to using Bambu Studio, those seams are like massive scars in the prints.
Someone should go post a new thread with this update, but I’ll be honest, I don’t want 500 notifications for the next 48 hours lol.
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This update is funny 
Let’s go over some points:
This is NOT about limiting third-party software. We’re creating Bambu Connect specifically to ensure continued third-party integration while enhancing security. We’re actively working with developers like Orca Slicer to implement this integration.
Well, according to SoftFever you kinda didn’t. The Connect is unnecessary bloat, you rejected plea for normal access and to top it off, from horse’s mouth:
This is beta testing, not a forced update. The choice is yours. You can participate in the beta program to help us refine these features, or continue using your current firmware.
Looks like the testing is working in testing user’s patience and what one can get away with… Hopefully feedback is heard and course will be adjusted appropriately.
Regarding Bambu Connect flow:
When using third-party slicing software like Orca Slicer, the difference in users experience is not much. As you can see in the following video, the whole workflow is almost the same from the users’ perspective. The previous device tab in the slicer is replaced by a new application window.
I don’t know who wrote this, but no, it’s not “not much” - it’s totally different app, breaking flow, removing device tab functionality, adding additional steps and creating unnecessary friction. you COULD grant orca slicer required keys in order to retain flow but noooo…
The integration is seamless, activating only when needed to handle printer communications.
HOW is the totally separate app “seamless”?
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Thanks, that was an interesting read.
A lot of “you all missunderstand”, and “missinformation”, and “sorry for not making this clear”. But very little hard assurances, nothing makes it sound like the printers will remain our own.
The “developer mode” kinda sounded like a version of being left behind, with no further updates or anything, for the “advanced” users, that can do everything themselves. The users who will never buy another BambuLab printer? But might pick up a Sovol SV08 instead next time.
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Same
My sights are on the Sovol SV08, easy to install mainline Klipper on, and quite friendly on the wallet. Can also be upgraded to multi-toolhead, but that’s a bigger project.
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I’m completely new to 3d printing and only bought my P1S combo unit during Black Friday.
Up to now I thought Bambu Labs looked like a really good outfit especially if you consider they started from a Kickstarter. However, having read these comments I’m beginning to think I made the wrong choice.
I hope the listen to the community before it’s too late for them.
Here, check out the full deobfuscated main.js from the Connector app: https://archive.ph/9HJd4. Notice the hard-coded X509 cert and the private key there.
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Stil 0.1 point away to share same place as Creality 1st on the most unpopular chart.
From your blog entry at:
Acknowledging Community Feedback
We’ve received a wide range of feedback following our announcement, and we’re grateful for the insights shared. Many concerns have come from print farm owners who depend on reliable and uninterrupted access to their 3D printers. We understand the stakes for these businesses, and your feedback has driven meaningful changes in our approach.
So… us, the normal users did not had any concerns at all right? Just the farm users. And all of this “change” is because of them. You know? Many “normal” users also rely on their printers for work. That is the problem, Bambu really doesn’t know how to treat loyal customers. Just look at your community. Community that you chose every time to ignore, community that begs of you for change and instead they get “we will work on it” and never get anything solved. The community that has bought your printers and supported you all the way…
In response, we’ve made the decision to implement an optional LAN mode feature, to provide advanced users with more control and flexibility. Under the updated LAN mode:
- Standard Mode (Default): By default, LAN mode will include an authorization process that ensures robust security. This option is ideal for the majority of users who prioritize security and ease of use. Despite claims to the contrary, LAN mode through Bambu Connect will require neither internet access nor a user account. This hasn’t changed and won’t change.
- Developer Mode (Optional): For advanced users of the X1, P1, A1, and A1 Mini who prefer full control over their network security, an option will be available to leave the MQTT channel, live stream, and FTP open. This feature must be manually enabled on the printer, and users who select this option will assume full responsibility for securing their local network environment. Please note that Bambu Lab will not be able to provide customer support for this mode, as the communication protocols are not officially supported.
So… we must update to the “Beta” firmware (I’ll be touching that subject later) for this “Developer Mode LAN” functionality. If we don’t update, we won’t get that function right? Or will you turn on that option server side and will magically appear on our machine?
But let’s not forget the normal “Standard Mode LAN”. It will include and authorization process but from where? Is it really LAN mode if i need an authorization to work on my own network? Still, it needs to get that authorization from somewhere. The only authorization it would be necessary would be mine. If i say yes, then the printer prints. If i say no, the printer shutdowns. It’s that easy!
Videos, posts, and comments have claimed that we are restricting third-party tools or forcing users into a closed ecosystem. Let’s be clear about what this update actually means and stop the spread of misinformation:
There was no misinformation. It was all based on your own announcement. People don’t like to be bossed around and as a community, we have showed our strength. LAN mode is LAN mode, that’s it. That was one of the many issues and one that was documented and talked about the most.
Again, LAN mode means that if anyone wants to exclude their printers from the internet, then they would use LAN and you announced a system where we would need to get a “yes” from a random server owned by Bambu in order to be able to keep our printers in our own network. Can’t you really see how insane that is?!
- This is NOT about limiting third-party software. We’re creating Bambu Connect specifically to ensure continued third-party integration while enhancing security. We’re actively working with developers like Orca Slicer to implement this integration.
2 days before announcing this you communicated with the Orcaslicer dev and then never again. 2 Days later you refused a request from them. That is not “actively working with developers”. You made it your way and in the end if Orcaslicer wants to be able to offer something to Bambu printers, will have to be made your way, with a middle man software in the middle, running in the background. I hate having software that i don’t trust sitting there, on my ram, doing who knows what and occupying my computer resources. And as far as i know, Bambu does not pay for those resources that are being used on my machine.
- This is beta testing, not a forced update. The choice is yours. You can participate in the beta program to help us refine these features, or continue using your current firmware.
This here… this is the really creamy top that was missing from that cake.
So… this new firmware that you first announced… It was not Beta firmware. It was a normal firmware update.
But now, being that you are being called out in the internet from almost every side, you decided to call it “beta testing”. You really thought that changing it to beta was a good choice? Really? Are you really implying that if the community would not complained and all went according to Bambu plan, we would have updated our machines with a Beta firmware without being informed about it? Because that what it now looks like. There was no mention of any Beta before and my machines are not here as a test playground for Bambu to play with. But you though that yes, they should be used as a playground for testing…
As far as i know, i didn’t put a tick on the “I agree on installing a beta firmware” on my machines. I wonder for how long have you been pushing “beta” firmware’s to our machines without us knowing…
- About Panda Touch. We reached out to BTT as soon as we became aware of their product. We warned them that using exploited MQTT protocols was unsustainable and would place customers in an awkward situation once we updated the system. All of this communication occurred before the mass shipment of Panda Touch; however, they chose to ignore our warnings. Unfortunately, the truth is now being presented in a misleading manner. The same concerns apply to other products they manufacture that rely on these MQTT protocols.
This is also wrong. Or at least you worded it wrong. But hey, BTT should do their part and who am i to say anything. But “we warned them” and “exploited MQTT protocols”? Ouch…
We were also warned about Bambu and yet we chose to ignore it. And now look where we are. Same thing right?
I will end this here because there is no way winning with you Bambu. It’s always a problem with something and never your fault. It’s easier to blame everyone else and that is a trend that i am seeing almost since the start from Bambu. Sales, people that still didn’t get their already paid hardware, lack of support, fake promises, etc… There’s always something…
Love your printers but hate you as a company. I am just waiting for the next big thing to release because i am really tired of this.
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Please explain the flag on previous post. Is this an error or are we hiding posts now? Was just explaining point by point about the changes.
Edit: I edited the post and removed a line where it mentions “anti consumer” and it’s up. Maybe a false flag or someone is really angry and flagging my posts. Either way, it’s up.
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And those millions of dollars from private investors the year before the kickstarter
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Well, of course. I was just meaning in general, just in your regular speaking, of course you can’t swear at people.
Strange. Maybe everything I’ve said just hasn’t been banned. My point was it’s super Draconian on the subreddit. You can say ■■■■ here. You can’t there for example
Huh that’s interesting. It didn’t block like that last week