Quite frankly what they say nowadays has little value. They’ve shown their true colors now and they chose the dark side.
Sorta. In “old” firmware the could features are still present if you don’t have LAN mode enabled. With studio you’re sending through cloud to your printer. So your printer does rely on cloud in cloud mode, but with old firmware there’s no way for printer to use new signing mechanism, so the workflow stays the same.
It has the same value it always had. Also the way they say is important. For example, up until I witnessed X1 with beta firmware + bambu studio beta (i haven’t done the testing, I just saw it to be clear) requiring the use of bambu connect, I was convinced that wasn’t the case.
Just so we’re clear: new beta X1 firmware + new beta Bambu Studio = you need Bambu Connect to send prints to printer. Yes, even from Bambu Studio.
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Same here. What they say now has little value, because, I am moving away from BBL. Since BBL has already convinced me to make my next purchase elsewhere, I do not care what they say. Even if they turn this whole thing around, which they won’t, the trust is already broken.
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There’s so much nonsense being spread, it’s practically impossible to research for what’s actually taking place.
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Why can they not make a new firmware that just prints in Lan mode, and from the SD, if they drop the cloud completely they have no more so called security problems and makes things so simple. The onus is then on the owner of the Lan to keep their network safe. It seams to me that they have brought the so called security problems on themselves by using cloud mode in the first place, trash the cloud and end of the issue. But don’t take away anything else, people wanting to reach their network and hence the printer have a multitude of choices for network access.
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Yes, most of their security issues stem from their cloud-first strategy. However, MakerWorld is the integral part of their market strategy, and without things going through their cloud they cannot properly award points, boosts and what not, which are then used as an incentive to ‘reduce’ material and parts costs in their shop… Mind you, I really have no issue with that part of their strategy, and as long as users are aware of the privacy, security and ownership implications of the indirect connection to their printer - all power to them.
The issue is why in the world are they complicating things for local (LAN-only) prints with adding all these hoops, making things simultaneously less secure and more annoying, while touting that they are trying to achieve the opposite? MQTT-TLS w/ OTP-based key exchange is plenty secure for local environments and is a golden standard in the embedded industry - but no, they want to roll their own ‘authorization’, whatever they think it means. That is the most baffling part of this whole debacle, but now I’m repeating myself…
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I am selling my bambu, but they have done something good for me as I will now finish my voron and consider a SV08 which has a larger build. Good printerbut extremely poor customer support.
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I guess I dont get to buy any new bambu products. Very sad
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It is stated in 2 places in their terms that failure to keep firmware updated my results in degrade performance or inability to print.
So I guess I understand now why the X1E was so much more expensive. They’d likely planned to pull this ■■■■ all along, but knew that big enterprises would sue them into oblivion - so instead, they split that off, lulled consumers in with disingenuous statements, and then rug pull.
“How deliciously evil…” - Mr. Smithers
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@ Johnny_Bit
Please pardon my ignorance on all this, but where /how do you enable/disable LAN mode? I did not realize that my work is going through any cloud to my printer - I thought it was going directly over my local network to the printer. Is there a way to have it go simply over my local network from PC to printer?
As a general rule-of-thumb, I avoid all “cloud” software as much as possible. Way I look at it is simple: You wouldn’t allow a stranger to come into your home and view your finances, hand over your checkbook, savings accounts & all your other personal, and confidential, financial info. So why would anyone want to use cloud services if they don’t absolutely have to? Once your data leaves your secure facility, who knows who is doing what with it? OK, I will step off my cloud services soapbox now… 
Seriously, thank you Johnny_Bit for the information - greatly appreciate it!
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When you look at how their “security” is being implemented, you’ll know that this is a piss poor attempt and this guy says it very well… posted for info… maybe someone at Bambu will understand the errors they’ve made https://youtu.be/iA9dVMcRrhg?si=Yq-amCt4Ggc57ZEg
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Head into your printer settings, network and Lan mode should be there. Write down the access code under the Lan mode button and in the slicer add the printer and when requested, write that code.
After that, all your prints go from the slicer to your printer. You will not have any more control over the printer with the phone app, but that is the trade off.
And this also shows that not every user knows that their data is going through the cloud.
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Absolutely. But I will not be a hypocrite, and I will say that they should do their best to keep the cloud OPTION as a CHOICE for the users who do want it. And unlike some throwing the rest of us under the bus, I would express my support for those cloud users if they were upset that their cloud was going away.
At the very least I wouldn’t actively engage in arguing with them, or insulting them, for having a problem with Bambu Lab changing their product after the sale.
It seems we “LANmoders” don’t get the same courtesy back from some other members of the community here.
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I have fallen down the rabbit hole on this issue. I have watched a few dozen YouTube videos on the matter, have read blogs, and studied this thread fully then today, as luck would have it, the YouTube algorithm finally popped something in my feed worth watching 
. I have never heard of this dude and have no affiliation with him/his channel. I have yet to see a more insightful (nor entertaining) opinion piece on the “firmware fiasco” than this:
It is definitely worth 30 minutes of your life. Enjoy.
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Being an old grey bush sys admin myself, this kid is right on the money. Why “reinvent the wheel” when others have gone down this road and delt with the big and small potholes previously. He’s absolutely correct for handling this issue.
I really hope that Bambu see’s that this “Beta” Firmware, and Bambu Connect is bad path to go down and they correct things before they go live (whenever that is, because they haven’t said when).
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Thanks @24CT for the link to Lemontron’s educational video re Bambu’s latest efforts at “security”. Well worth the time to view!!!
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I really enjoyed the part starting at the last 20 seconds.
We’ve asked nicely many times, but I guess the need to be contrarian is too compulsive for some people.
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Brother, well said. I can picture the conflict at Bambu, because I have seen it before in other companies and across other industries (which is why I, too, am grey bushed!!):
I guarantee there are a small handful of developers and administrators at Bambu right now at this moment saying, “I told you so!” Unfortunately, someone with clout at Bambu has sold management on this pig in a poke and will die on the hill defending it until the bitter end and to the detriment of the company, its reputation, and the trust of its power-user base. The power-user-base is simply outnumbered here → and numbers = money.
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im sorry man, this sucks. I hope we can figure out a way to make Bambu not do this. I might move my models to cults3D and just screw Bambu. I have heard lots of problems with copyrighted material being stolen, bot admins going crazy, and lots of other stuff.
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