Yep actually quite funny lol, I do agree with them but don’t see what ranting about it here will do.
Just plain old monetization, @StreetSports … Practically, what Bambu/Tao does try to pull off with their consumer base (especially the starters) it’s the oldest trick in the book, since money were invented: greed. Not that is something wrong with wanting to make money; it’s more about the manner in which you do it.
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@SupportAssistant You real? A robot? A boldly-named user?
he’s real enough, but don’t raise your hopes to much in him finding or offering you a solution.
I had to disable LAN Mode Liveview. LAN Only was already off.
Thanks Bambu.
For posterity’s sake;
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The opposite of everybody just going along and staying silent. The ranters have already caused bambu to change course somewhat. Feedback is gold when you want happy customers. The weird thing is the people that try and block feedback by putting others down.That makes zero sense.
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The versions listed here are stable release versions.
You can downgrade the firmware version installed if you somehow installed the Beta version (did you opt in to the Beta program?) using the Bambu Handy app. Within the title bar, there’s a hamburger button (2nd from the right).
In that menu you will find the “Firmware Version” option. If you scroll down to the bottom after picking that, there’ll be a button called “I want to downgrade to a previous version”, where you can select from the available previous firmware versions. The printer may prompt to update on each power cycle but just skip that.
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I am not trying to pull politics into this, but this is information suppression tactics, mainly used by communist parties, namely CCP and Vietnamese communist party.
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Just pointing out that we’re currently on a forum owned and managed (read “fully controlled”) by a Chinese-owned company, established and operating in China, subject to Chinese legislation…and doing “business” in a Chinese manner (discretionary).
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@JonRaymond thanks for your comment. Please carefully review this sentence in the official Bambu Labs Terms of Use.
Literal quote from Terms of Use - Bambu Lab:
“your product may block new print job before the updates is installed”
I’m sorry to break it to you, but to me words in the TOS bear more weight.
(and yes, I agree, you’re right currently, but what about tomorrow?)
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I worry mostly about in the future the Chinese government might want to do bad things to my printer and they don’t need hacks.
Something I am reminded of every time I log in to the Makerworld website and have to provide an emailed 2FA code. They tell me I only have to do that because I don’t keep Bambu cookies. Cookies which are as easy to steal as passwords and completely bypass password and 2FA security. I am told to avoid the PIA of emailed 2FAs on every log in I should make my account less secure than it was before emailed 2FA was imposed on me. Concerning privacy and security Bambu Labs are idiots and I will continue to be sceptical about anything they say and do.
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This is the best explanation I’ve yet heard:
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Until Bambu FOSS their software and firmware, NO ONE should believe anything they say.
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Great video. I especially liked the last few sentences
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Assuming the video is correct, then sure, Bambu would lose some face by coming clean about it and then start fixing the problem, because at least that’s only temporary incompetence, whereas sticking to their guns and spinning their hacked solution as deliberate in an attempt to save face makes them appear too stupid to even recognize the depths of their own mistake, let alone correct it, which would therefore brand them as deceptive and therefore even less trustworthy, and consequently permanently incompetent and untrustworthy.
Bambu: forget the short-term optics. Just come clean and then do the right thing! Your current approach is only digging the hole deeper.
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To quote from the blog post about X1Plus:
Is the Apple way the right approach? It’s too early to tell, but it’s the path we’ve chosen, and we intend to stay on it.
I’d like to think that this situation should open up the conversation about whether or not it is still the right way to go. Or, at the very least, it’s started the conversation about how happy a person is about this approach.
Not to jump into the mosh pit, but I can’t help but wonder what the business case is for doing what they’re doing. In business, everything is done for monetary reasons and not a dollar is spent willingly unless there’s a return on investment. Developing Bambu connect and the new firmware didn’t happen for free, so what’s the real end game to make it monetarily attractive? That’s what bothers me most about this - not knowing what their real intentions are. Everything I can think of apart from perhaps alleviating cloud server bandwidth issues comes up as nefarious or controlling - most probably the creation of some sort of post-sale revenue stream. I can’t see them spending dollars to improve the security of users only security for themselves. But the crux of the changes seems to be touted as printer security not BL’s security. Why would they care if your printer is hacked? Why would they spend money on benevolence?
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I believe you will be forced to use it. All new printers will come with it for the obvious security reasons.
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There is absolutely NO NEED for a cloud service at all so creating a problem to make a solution that also includes other problems is intentional and planned.
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