Tool changer! Bambu’s vortek system!

Coming Q4

Sorry for the Facebook link.

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https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/h2/manual/vortek-faq

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Its an interesting system but its not a true tool changer… so there are some downsides like not being able to print with any materials that dont go in the AMS, like multi color TPU 95A prints. Also the time to swap the hot end + load the filament from the AMS wont be super quick. This is basically to reduce filament waste for people that do multi color stuff. Like they said “this is our first attempt”, I think I will wait for their second, cool stuff nevertheless.

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Won’t it be able to work without an ams? I mean it claims 6 nozzles, an ams has 4 filaments, doesn’t add up, except if they plan to make mandatory to couple with 2 ams which again doesn’t add up, you get 2 mandatory , 8 slots in total to use only the 6-7? Also no point in having it ams coupled only. You don’t need the feeders and all these , you just need a filament in a hot end and the hot end plugs in the extruder. How? I’m not sure yet but you defined don’t have to have an ams

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Looks like the system will have a stationary hotend and 6 swappable, so I would expect the stationary one can use non-AMS filaments. On timing, it most likely won’t be as fast as a full tool changer, but I’d expect about a 40-50% reduction in the excess time required for multicolor/material. Still waiting to see details on that.

It basically an H2D with right hot end swappable, so the stationary left hot end wont be able to use TPU 95A. And the right wont be able to use non-AMS filaments like PA6-CF, PET, PPS, PPA etc, unless fed from external spool and using only one nozzle. Not really an engineering focused product like H2D, more for people doing multi color prints at a high price most likely. Im okay with some wasted flushed filament on the odd time Im doing more than 2 filaments. Not really super exciting for me, like I said I look forward to their second attempt.

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I don’t think this will work without an AMS. There can be up to 6 nozzles, so you’d need 2 AMS to get the full benefit. It seems like they are planning to cut the filament at the hotend, swap filament with an AMS as the hotend is being swapped, then print with the new hotend.

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I wasn’t aware of the TPU restriction on the H2D, so clearly I’m not any expert here but I believe the issue there is that the left hotend on the H2D can’t do TPU because it is the one that moves. Hoping they fix that on the H2C since it looks like the left is stationary and right changes.

Ohh God man! Here we go! Has the thing even been released yet?! No, so you don’t know what they have cooked up! Really! Did your crystal ball see this device being announced “today”… Unless you’re an insider, just stop…

But I guess, and this is no different: there are so many more drama queens and “talk about it versus doing it” people in the world period…

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Just said it not a product thats super useful to me, what the problem with that? Im sure lots of people that print multi color will be super excited about it.

I think the only drama queen is that one that start their replies with “Ohh God man!” :joy:

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Do you have sitting in front of you? That you’ve used… That you’ve unboxed… Have they given “all” the specs on what it can or cannot do, or an overview?

You can’t truly and honestly speak on something that you don’t really know of the final product! Just like Bambu “announced” that today, there good for one thing: always adding past or up from the naysayers minds! None of us know what I’m the world they will release! They are good for that 100%!

And maybe your thinking process is the problem and your stumbling block! In other words, limited vision…

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Yeah, I agree with you, it’s real bummer thats is required and most of the engineering filaments won’t work

Dang. That was some extreme fanboying. Im impressed

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I’m thinking its more biased toward his feelings from previous posts. He’s just pouring it all out now.

@DameD, Its a free world (mostly), so have at it, but there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with someone sharing their thoughts like you are.

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Calm down dame, im a dude

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I think if they make system that is similar to AMS that allow to load filament, something like Snapmaker’s U1 loader, maybe it would work, other than that it’s useless, and even if they would make, the load time would be huge, which is absolutely not acceptable for engineering filaments, since previous layer will cool down.

No I have not used it but I have eyes. It will feed the right nozzle from the AMS, you can draw some conclusions from that, that is all I was doing. Its called deductive reasoning.

Mnnnn hmm… K… We will see… I will make my conclusions based off “finished product” and not someone’s “eyes from a promo video”… What is this: eyespy or something…