Toxic forum, toxic members, zero action (Calling for deaths)

The forum has gone downhill recently.

A toxic culture of name-calling, unhelpful posts, personal attacks and gaslighting by a group of people who backslap each other when they join forces.

The lack of active forum moderation or any enforcement of community guidelines is driving people away.

Much of this has been reported and gone without response or even being read by the moderator @JonRaymond.

Some examples, showing zeros, which are the reply counts. None, zero, nada, nought.

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I will highlight one incident as the perpetrator decided to double down on their previous attack today.

This user was called out at the time of the first incident to @JonRaymond, who said they (the moderators) were aware of it and were handling it.

What originally happened?

A user publicly called for my imminent death and the death of my friends.

This would get you banned from most platforms and possibly even police intervention.

On this forum, no action was taken, no ban for a short period or a full ban.

I was never provided feedback; the only thing which happened was that the offending message was removed.

What just happened?

Recently, this same user replied to one of my posts as if nothing had happened previously. It seems calling for someone’s death wasn’t memorable at all to that person, sufficient to notice who they were replying to.

I pointed out what they did previously:

Today I received a response.

You may have expected an apology, or you may have thought silence.

Instead, I received a double-down; he blamed me for his calling for my death because I shared my health issues here.

https://forum.bambulab.com/t/tpu-designs/115020/45?u=malctheoracle

In case it gets edited.

maybe you should not have said anything about your heath all of those times huh? maybe you should understand i don’t care about making friends with you or need any help from you… to me you are another keyboard cowboy looking for validation. stop using your health as a way to deal with your sub par personality and your innate ability to be a hallway moniter. pfftt

The other day, I was gaslit by one user who defended another user who I called out for health. They used the quick tone change after the fact as a way to say it never happened in the first place.

When more than 25% in one case and over 50% in the other react to the things others say with a downvote, something is not right there. These are not people engaging positively.

My Health
For those who do not know, I have health issues. Why did I share those?

I use my health issue to explain why I got into 3D printing, how it has helped me, why it determines my choices and how it limits my capabilities.

I have used it to show the positive effect it has had on my health, likely the reason I am a few months beyond the date I should have left the planet.

When discussing things that are harder for the disabled to do, I have shared specifics about my health. I have had a lot of FOMO as future dates have concerned me, as I can’t assume I will be able to enjoy them. CyberBrick has been one such thing, as I thought that would be something special (I still do, despite all the issues associated with it).

I will not apologise for giving context to my thoughts, in the same way someone (including me) shares their work history that adds context.

Nor will I apologise for providing information about how my disabilities can help change things or give context to those who do not understand how it impacts people, as they do not live with it. Changing nozzles, as an example.

Why didn’t I direct this to @JonRaymond? Because he has decided to respond to issues of toxic behaviour or explain why such behaviour goes without response. You can’t engage with someone who doesn’t engage back.

I imagine this will be taken down.

I can’t imagine airing of this “dirty washing” in public will be politely accepted as “sorry, we should have and will do better”.

I expect the only one to suffer any consequences will be me.

What do I hope will happen?

  • The moderators provide an apology for their past failures to act or to even respond
  • They block such egregious forum members, including the one called out
  • They act on reports of accounts set up solely to attack other users, not just those aimed at me, as they are often targeting many accounts
  • To enforce the Forum Guidelines, they say they enforce

https://forum.bambulab.com/guidelines

What do I expect will happen?

  • This post will be pulled down.
  • Others will downvote this post, often those who set out to attack others
  • Those same people will say I deserved it for having a terminal illness
  • The moderators will get annoyed because I called them out
  • @JonRaymond will retaliate for being called out specifically
  • Few if any will add a supporting comment for fear of being targeted by those who need to be removed.

Why am I doing this?

Because new users shouldn’t have to be part of this toxic environment, and moderators should actively moderate, or at least, moderate based on reports.

Information
For those who keep attacking me as if I have done some perceived harm by existing, here are a few of the system stats that say otherwise.

It appears that many people have received my help.

Those who attack are never even close to this level of help provided. Most are new accounts set up solely to attack, joining forces, some are likely the same individuals with multiple accounts using them together to appear as many people.

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Sorry that happened to you… honestly there people have forgotten what respect means and should be reminded the hard way. The fear way.
On the other hand, my current view of this forum is not so positive anyway, given that I’ve spent the last 4-5 days scouring the threads for solutions and all I can see is the same guy replying to all threads with the “filament/user error” and downvoting people who call him wrong… so yeah…not much hope here
Honestly Bambu should put a block utility. Not just ignore, block the guy and be done with it, I don’t understand the whole “ignore” but he’s still there for you.

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I think this is users-per-mod problem.

Userbase of the forum grew. Since according to J Peterson there’s around 4-5% of Cluster B personality disorders in general population, I’d say it’s fair to assume that bambu lab community forums aren’t some holy ground that somehow is free of that, so with growing number of users there’s a growing number of bad people.
On the flipside, the “public” mod is just Jon with most likely some people behind the scenes doing mod work and only a handful of other known-to-public Bambu employees. This means that growing number of bad people isn’t met with growing number of mods.

From my experience of moderating a very small forum I can say that it’s a thankless job that sucks and with growing number of users I’ve faced a point where I no longer enjoyed forum and grew tired of even legitimate reports. The solution to that was simple: more mods. Or rather - more good mods. The reddit experience taught me that there are people who, while capable as mods, should never be in position of power, because they do abuse it to the point where the guidelines are just a smoke show because actual rules are “whatever mods likes goes regardless of guidelines and vice versa”

To repeat: the solution is more good mods. And a way to contact not a single overworked mod, but the moderator team, so that reports can be acted upon and responded to by whoever’s available and not burned out (also - in theory a group of good mods could keep “bad” mod in check). While this doesn’t provide “apology” it should help to bring about other things in your “i hope will happen” list :slight_smile:

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I’ve noticed that emotions tend to run a lot hotter on the makerworld threads…

As for the printer forum, it seems less than in the past. I try to report anything I notice is blatantly abusive, either to myself or to anyone else. We all suffer even if it’s someone else being abused, because it has a chilling effect overall on people’s willingness to post. It can sometime help to lend a supporting post to the person being abused, and sometimes that helps defuse the situation.

You never know who is really who. Not really. I like the quote from Immitation Games: " “Sometimes it is the people who no one imagines anything of, who do the things that no one can imagine.”

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@MalcTheOracle I have been watching these forum discussions for over a year now I personally have noticed that you usually give great (although lengthy) advise and insight. I really do not know what health issues you have but I know you have out witted death on several occasions. I am not a huge fan of fidget spinners perse but I do appreciate the time and care you have put in to all of the makes you have done and I have printed several for folks who have asked for them (I did not sell them) as they are for kids with disabilities and I love seeing the smiles and excitement they get, Just warms the heart. So cudos to you good sir! Please keep up the good work!

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i’m extremely sorry this is happening to you (or to anyone else). gheez. death threats are messed up.

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But he took a post of mine down today for mentioning how many cheers someone got. I feel your pain. Really bad stuff gets ignored but stupid stuff gets taken down.

It depends on if the mods agree with the post or not. And you can tell how they think by what comments they choose to like and which users they befriend. (atleast one mod)

Ive had many posts taken down within seconds of posting them, that broke no rules. And ive also flagged many posts that were left up, even though they obviously broke rules.

Ive said this in the past but nobody had my back but drakko.

There are multiple mods, but jon seems to be the most active with taking down posts and choosing sides. The other mods are very understanding and will talk with you. If jon left it up, it was on purpose.

I barely post now, because every post ends in an argument or random trolling by the army of brand new accounts or makerworld credit ballers lol

Now I understand why you thought I was attacking you the other day. Sorry man.

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Well… um… that happened. :open_mouth:

Lets just say, as someone who hasn’t been on this forum as long as the rest of you guys that, but this is most certainly not the place for death threads and name-calling… geez louise! That person should at bare minimum in the first instance have been taken aside by a mod, and blocked from being able to comment for some time period and then require their posts to be moderated for a further period. Second strike, they should have been banned. Police intervention is an overreach (unless sustained and targeted behaviour) IMO, but that is another topic.

Whenever I’ve seen posts by you, I have genuinely enjoyed reading them, as they show a lot of thought, encouragement and willingness to help. If this thread gets taken down, I guess it’ll be time to find another forum.

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I have been donating printers and filament to local schools (and one remote).

Some old printers, some new ones, one via gift cards.

I have also been donating boxes full of my fidget toys, all varieties, to them.

I received several cards the kids made to say thank you the other day, the photo below is four of them. I have been told more are on the way. These were from a recent donation.

The kids have had a fidget of their choice, and the rest were sold at their school fete, which was raising funds.

Sorry, not sorry for mentioning my health.

The reason for the length turns out to be due to my Aphantasia. One side-effect is the difficulty in seeing context without a detailed explanation, so I do the same when sharing.

I am glad my models have provided the assistance they were designed for. It is one of the reasons for the many variants as different people benefit from the different textures, weights and sizes.

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I like how these kids can spell your name right, but I’m still here just calling you Malc. :smiley:

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Balloon kid went with a high-effort option - I like it.

Very nice to see!

I figured he was the @Josh-3D of felt-tip pens.

One didn’t, dumb kids.

At least none used the worst spelling I have seen (from a company on a letter) Malcum. Yeah, I can brag, but not in that direction.

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