User is abusing tags to get irrelevant models in search results



When you view the rest of their lightbox models, most of them have the same tags.

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Interesting case, I would try to report it (probably as “Other” and describe the problem). Honestly, I’m curious how MakerWorld will respond to this, if at all.

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They won’t, we’re talking about MakerWorld here

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I already reported it, but nothing happened yet. I wanted to make sure it was seen because of how scummy it is.

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Something Trump related based on lies, who would have thought that would happen.

I dare you to leave this up and not flagged because some people don’t like very funny observational humour.

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I don’t think the user should get a free pass for abusing the tags system simply because that was the standard at the time and people got away with it along with this user that got away with it for years.

They still clearly used incorrect tags that are completely irrelevant to the model. The only reason to do this is to manipulate the search to show your model as much as possible. They actively made the choice to do something that is objectively wrong.

It’s pretty messed up to be searching for something innocuous like “Mario” and get a result that is praising a criminal and r*pist because the person who uploaded it intentionally misused the tags.

I can be mad at both the user and Makerworld for this.

I was certainly upset from the event. But I also figured that if Makerworld takes the time to remove my comment, then that means they would be seeing the reports for that model. If they remove my comment but not remove the tags, then that works as evidence of Makerworld agreeing with this behavior implicitly. I also want this person to be alerted to the fact their scummy behavior is in fact scummy and unacceptable.

Additionally, when you prove yourself to be a scumbag, then you’ve lost the right to be shown respect.

I just checked and scrolled the “mario” resuls and I have a couple questions:

  1. How far you’ve scrolled? I got bored after a while finding nothing that caught my attention. Did you went out your way to find it?
  2. Why are you highlighting that lightbox (and that user) when right above there’s 2 other items “abusing” the tags on the screen you posted:
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  3. I see that you’ve left not-so-nice comment on the model you highlighted, but I don’t see you commenting on other “tag abusing” models such as that r2d2 hueforge… I mean, just check the tags on that one:

    On which models have you left comments informing the users that you find using “wrong” tags bad? I assume multiple users are doing the “wrong-tagging” not just that one user and you informed multiple users of their bad behaviour.
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  1. Why does that matter? It seems like you’re trying to say “I got bored quickly therefore you must have had some sort of purpose for finding this”. I shouldn’t have to explain myself and it feels like you’re trying to attack me. I was just browsing for Mario related models.

  2. I did see those and I agree those are also abusing the wrong tags. It just didn’t have the same maddening effect as a politically charged model. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to be more mad at one person’s rule breaking than others. Feel free to report those. I would highly support that.

  3. Similar to 2, there are completely valid reasons to be significantly more upset at the one than the others.

If you’re expecting me to report every single issue on the site, then that’s just an unreasonable expectation. Not all issues are worth following up on for each person.

Now, I’d appreciate if you lay off trying to find some sort of ‘gotcha’ against me, if that’s what you’re trying to do. I’m not sure, but it seems that way. You can disagree with my comment, and I’ll own up to the fact it’s not a good comment, but that’s not what you’re trying to point out.

I’d rather this not start an argument, though I will stand up for myself if I feel attacked. The other user was perfectly respectful, can we follow their lead?

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I checked. Result number 252.

https://makerworld.com/en/search/models?keyword=mario&orderBy=likeCount

Again, I was just browsing to see what’s available.

ahh cant keep your political emotions to yourself huh, Malc?

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(Removed because I now realize that @VictorLagina is trolling)

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And there we have it, folks. Makerworld has removed the comment, but not the false tags on the model.

@MakerWorld has made it clear that it is acceptable to abuse the tags to manipulate search results. Congrats!

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Because the search engine on makerworld penalizes usage of multiple tags. Among thousand+ models when going with organic search it’s highly improbable to find that model anywhere near “top” (or whatever one would consider “polluting the search results”)

Actually - it’s not reasonable. A political lightbox is “abusing the tags” in the same way that that R2D2 hueforge.

OK, so you’re not using “relevance” (which would penalize the heck out of multiple tags) but likes. Even then as you’ve said it’s “result number 252” so quite far from the top… And I’m sure there’s plenty models that “abuse the tags” before the 252nd one :slight_smile:

Makerworld reacts to reports differently and probably are handled by various staff. When making report I find that being able to cite explicit guideline helps with report’s success. For reference: Community Guidelines - MakerWorld
Also, when reporting violations that are in use by multiple users it’s good to report multiple users, otherwise that looks like a targetted report.

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Now I believe the OP can’t keep his political emotions, as he stated himself:

It becomes clear to me this whole thread started because of the political emotions :wink:

I think it’s perfectly reasonable to be more mad at one person’s rule breaking than others.

I totally disagree with this, I believe that everyone should be treated equally (and if not, it means that… emotions are involved).

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First, @Johnny_Bit, it shouldn’t matter because breaking the rules is breaking the rules. The method of how I stumbled on this and reported it is irrelevant to that fact.

It is more and more seeming like you are trying to shift the conversation and put into question whether or not I found this accidentally. Please refrain and move on.

Yes, it is reasonable. I never claimed it’s equal or the most correct or anything like that. I simply said it’s reasonable. And that is something that I would absolutely stand by being correct. It was the model that made me notice this abuse of tags, because took me out of my perfectly fine browsing session and made it an infuriating one.

Sure, all of the bad tags should be removed. I fully agree with that. Feel free to report them. I just did one bit to help out. Why don’t you? (Rhetorical question. I’d actually rather you not respond or participate in this thread anymore. Thanks.)

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I have already stated that I didn’t want to argue, but I will defend myself. And yet I am pressed more and more.

Now you’re saying I’m insulting users? Come on. I just want to be left alone and you’re attacking me. This is exactly what I was talking about with what @Johnny_Bit was doing. It’s not a harmless questioning. This is a method called Sealioning and you’re letting him steer the conversation with it.

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You’ve explained yourself and your motivation. That should be enough. You said you don’t want me to respond, yet you continue to tag me. Please stop that if you really don’t want me to respond. Other people have given you good advice so listen to them.

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That is where I will never agree. Just because I make a post pointing out an issue does not mean I need to be ready for a shake-down.

The reason I pinged Johnny again after-the-fact is because their behavior is what provoked all of this. (though, pinging wasn’t correct and was due to more of a reflex of trying to quickly and easily use their name) You say I did “everything wrong” but missed the context that I was provoked by Johnny while others joined in allowing him to steer the “discussion” away from the topic.

I hope that’s something you can learn, that in the future to not allow other people to drag you into bullying people along with them.

Do I handle being attacked well? No. That sucks. It sucks to be attacked and dog-piled needlessly. Thanks for making this place so welcoming.

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