“I want to see if i can print faster than a Bambu or Voron with the quality of a 50k dollar printer”
Let me tell you what you will find from experience, you’re almost certainly not going to stumble on a game changing mod without a massive amount of time and money. I build 3D printers only when I need something to fix a specific problem, one of scale, or detail for example.
The Z18’s were my only attempt to make something that could do functional parts out of exotic materials in a general purpose sense, not built to a job’s requirements (although I had a project in mind) and I was really happy with the outcome, but it was in retrospect a fool’s errand in terms of time invested.
I find this point of view very pessimistic and a “creativity killer”, tons of novelties come from passionate people and a lot from non-professional world, we can observe this every days in many domains
One where it is the most visible is software development since the 80s, but it is true for all kind of domains as soon as they become accessible by non-professional, It just require to look closely back at the last 20 or maybe 30 years
Sometime you have an epiphany, and you will know it if you do. I’m just saying it is unrealistic to think you can attack the Unified Field Theory after finishing Algebra 101. The low hanging fruit is pretty well picked over.
I got into 3D in 2011 because a lot of patents expired and we had projects like Rep-Rap, a lot of really smart people have been in this space a really long time so big improvements are harder to come by now because that is the nature of development.
Pessimism and doubt from others are what drive me the most
What I love the most about 3d printing is it doesn’t need to be overly expensive (at least from my point of view but expensive means different things to different people) and if an individual is both somewhat tech savy and mechanically inclined we can do some amazing things
Those that have doubt either give up too easily or are afraid to try and that comment is not directed at anybody it’s just one of those facts that made planes fly, cars drive and most of what we use today
If I can accomplish something someone else hasn’t and they are willing to shut up and listen then I’m all in with every ounce of what I’ve got
That’s just me, it’s in my nature to help when I can
Sometimes the trying is as good as succeeding. Its fun to experiment and improve stuff, after all!
It is fun to try new things, and not every change needs to be to revolution an entire industry, but looking at the VZBot printers, it started with a single dedicated guy who keeps pushing the limits further and further.
I believe finding something industry changing new is quite a slim chance, but sometimes such things happen from someone you never would have thought it.
I personally think the next big thing in 3d printing won’t be on the hardware side, but on the software side, allowing printers to operate more in 3d then 2.5d. It would truely be game changing for consumer devices.
Great comment, and it made me laugh. I mean… I admire the passion, but this is just a $1400 printer man, nothing life changing. I think user @frontrange made some great points and he is right on many counts.
I love cars. With automobiles you realize that eventually you will run into limits which simply aren’t worth crossing (they most definitely can be though), and your time, passion, and energy is better spent on a car which can actually match your ambitions. In this case, the Bambu bed is just built sh*t. There is no saving that. I mean, we can plunk a metal/glass sheet on top and get some semblance of precision, but that’s it.
All right my friend, let’s see if you are up to the task. Look at that Bambu X1, it’s quite remarkable. I think revolutionary. So what would you do to radically improve it?
My point is just that you need to learn the ropes. If you think you are just going to step in an make something incredible because well, whatever…
Like I said, if you have a revolutionary new idea just put it on the table but be cognizant of past art, which is a way of saying understand lessons already learned.
So I have noticed something that I -thought- was print warping, but now I think is actually that my bed is slightly concave. Long prints seem to be a little higher on the far sides than it is in the middle.
Quick and dirty with the callipers seems to put it at around 0.3mm at worst, which isn’t the worst thing in the world but isn’t great. The printer is only a week old but I doubt I’ll get better from a replacement bed (and it sounds like it’s a long job to replace? Probably ending up creating more problems along the way aha).
I am tempted to just get one of those glass beds though. If they are actually flat-flat then they’re likely better than any bed I’ve had in the past.
Every report I have heard says that it presents zero issues. Look up posts by @penneymick as he owns one of these. I just received mine and just waiting on some ABS to print the clips and put it through the paces!
Also @Nirin definitely contact @Umuzoo since you are in the U.K. I won’t post the link to his site as that may be against Bambu forum rules but his product is called the Goodplate.
There are not many more things you can easily buy for cheap that are more flat then float glass, so yes, by consumer levels it is considered flat.
And yes, there are of cause downsides. It will cost you a some mm of z height, and a bit on the x axis as well for the clamps that holds the glass down to the bed. But its not really much. Heating will also take a bit longer and the temps are most likely slightly lower as the bed sensor tells you, but nothing you can’t adjust for or matters much.
To be sure, it is not perfectly flat, mostly do to the magnetic layer on top. Mine is about 0.02mm off, a 0.04mm feeler gauge I cannot get under it at any place. So if that is flat enough for you, they are indeed a solution.
Hi all,
I guess you all have already moved to finding a solution. But as I invested a bit of time to measure my old bed (V2) at different temperatures before installing the replacement … so here are the results.
The back part and a bit of the front/right corner are missing, due to the size and placement of the gauge on the carriage. I measured every 10mm in the x and every 20mm in the y-direction (… and after the cold bed I did it the opposite way )
Bottom line: The hotter the bed, the more the banana gets banana shaped
I will repeat the measurments, once I have installed the new bed … if I dont mess it up.
I can’t believe that the resident Bambu white knight in this thread, and Bambu’s own customer service (hi Ciprian!!) was trying to convince me that installing a banana bed will fix itself
I see you’ve discontinued shipping outside of EU. Are there any options for obtaining your wonderful invention in the USA? Anybody stocking them and shipping them from the US?
BaMbU LaB thOuGhT oF EvERYThINg!!
