What would you do? X1C and its pointless buttons!

So apart from occasionally knocking them and turning the display off, every so often I give these mysterious buttons a fiddle. Sometimes I hold them down for 5 seconds, sometimes I double press them. I think to myself, one day something might happen when I depress these strange little discs.

What would you have them function as? Answers on a postcard.

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Care to exemplify your point with some images ?

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Eh? Are you AI? I don’t get it

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These? I wish that the front top power symbol button. Would turn off the LCD, all fans, heaters etc. Just like my microwave cooker or TV does. ie. Put it into the lowest power state possible. But awake enough that I can use Bambu Studio, OrcaSlicer or the phone app to wake it up. No more reaching around the back to turn it on and off.

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What our fellow community member was trying to politely ask you to do was to express your observations with a photo. Nothing you posted in your post made any sense. Which buttons? Mechanical as @GrahamGo suggests or are you referring to the touch screen? As the saying goes; a picture is worth a 1000
 and your words apparently need as much help as they can get. :wink: How’s that for a Non-AI answer?

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I take it you don’t own one? A touchscreen isn’t a button my friend


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That sounds good, I was thinking similar maybe some sort of sleep mode could be implemented. The button that looks like a recycle symbol, maybe used to re-sync your AMS?

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Yup! its right there

Left is ‘screen sleep / wake’
Right is ‘pause’

Not useless, just unknown to the OG poster

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I knew the left button was screen sleep/wake (as originally posted), never knew about the pause though! That’s new haha. I mean they could’ve used a better symbol for it no? I mean pause is a pretty much ubiquitous by now. Still they are definitely lame choices. Be nice is we had a low power mode.

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Based on your terse post and the imprecise way the subject matter was initially presented—something you sarcastically pointed out when a member requested clarity—it implied that you were not a technical user. Therefore, one might assume you didn’t understand the distinction between an onscreen button and a mechanical button.

If you want quality responses from community members, manners and clarity matter. You may find that kindness and courtesy goes a long way when making a request for help. Just sayin
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One button is redundant, the other is a lie.

The on/off button only affects the screen display and is only useful to turn the screen off, which it can do on it’s own. It can also wake up the screen, but it is easier to do so by tapping the screen, which is a bigger target to see and tap.

The “recycle” symbol is a universal icon for “Emergency Stop”, and this button is NOT an emergency stop. It only brings up a query on the screen asking if you want to pause the print which you must confirm with a screen tap before the printer will actually stop.

I changed the icon when I printed extended buttons for a riser.
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Using X1Plus, the buttons can distinguish between a tap and a long press to provide up to four functions (or none).


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Unlike the stock functions, these Pause and Abort commands take effect immediately, without confirmation.

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Oh man, I never realised this was a thing! and yes I agree with your assessment of the standard uses, they are mostly pointless. Most of the time you’re monitoring the print remotely and very rarely do you ever pause anyway, unless you do it with custom gcode etc. A pause, but you still need to use the touchscreen is so bad, and the power button for the screen on/off is so pointless when, like you say, the screen turns off itself anyway.

How do you rate this custom firmware? Is it easy to go back to the original?

X1Plus is a very nice interface wrapper around the Bambu closed source firmware that actually controls the motors, fans, and heaters. Not essential, but certainly very useful. The User Manual explains all the new features. Everything works as advertised, and it has never caused me any problems.

Powering up is a little bit slower. There is an adjustable delay to let you choose various boot options and then it loads from the slower ”SDcard rather than internal memory. With a 10 second delay, the printer is ready in 55 seconds. That slight delay is the only negative I can find, and it is not important to me.

One boot option will let you run the internal Bambu firmware (v1.06.00, aka version “R”) with the check for updates disabled. That lets you run a (older) Bambu version without risking the accidental replacement of that rooted version.

Another boot option will run the internal firmware and check for updates. Agree to update and version R will be replaced with the current Bambu firmware, just like any other firmware update.

That’s all it takes to return to Bambu firmware.

But I can’t think of a single reason why you would want to.

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Power and print last saved model is what I would have made them do. You made perfect sense. Theres only 2 buttons on the tool.

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Hi, I have read earlier threads about X1Plus, along with the various warnings that implementing X1Plus was against Bambu policies and voids their warranty. For this reason, I have never considered using X1Plus. But reading your thread and briefly reading the X1Plus user manual. I don’t see any warnings or get out clauses in the user manual. I’m still not really sure that I need X1Plus as I am still in the honeymoon period of X1C ownership. But I do like what I see. Is there a single feature in X1Plus that makes it an obvious no-brainer?

IMO, no.
Most of the current features are nice to have, but not necessities.

Better use of the buttons has been discussed.

The console to enter g-code and the SSH access offer the opportunity to poke at the innards of the printer and really screw things up.

I do like VNC access, which basically puts the touchscreen on my computer or phone. Also makes using the console easier since you can use a real keyboard.

The SMB server might make it possible to share files or perhaps map a SDcard folder to your computer (or computer folder to the printer?). I’ve not needed that option and my question about SMB uses has gone unanswered on Github.

The wi-fi driver is supposed to be improved, but I never had a problem with the stock version, so I cannot detect a difference.

The bed mesh display and statistics simplify fine tuning of the bed level. Probably not essential if you don’t mind relying more on the ABL.

Personalization of various screen images is just bling.

“Honeymoon period” implies you still have a warranty. My “official” recommendation would be to wait until it expires before using non-stock firmware.

I’ve not yet heard of Bambu outright refusing support or warranty claims for hardware issues after using X1Plus, but they can. I have read of a few cases when Bambu still honored the warranty on hardware (after some pushback) once the failure was determined to be unrelated to the firmware. Usually the new parts have been accompanied with a stern warning that warranty replacement is on a case-by-case basis and not likely to be repeated. I’m not sure I would want to risk that or to beg for an exception.

I do not think X1Plus presents a risk to the printer. The control firmware is still downloaded directly from the Bambu servers.

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Thanks for the details, yes I’m in Holland and by law that should mean a 2 year warranty period, and I’m 1.5 months into it. The X1Plus does look neat. But I will ignore the temptation to try it. Actually, in the thread about Skew Compensation, there was talk about an extension in X1Plus to handle it. But as you may have read in that thread it turned out to be sublimely simple. Thanks!

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Read the directions that came with your new device?
That’s crazy talk. This generation doesn’t do that. Instead they go online, post it as a question on 14 channels and social media platforms, and let someone else do their reading and research for them. Everything is someone else’s job to these folks now days.

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well, mission accomplished!
In truth, I had to search for the button / function - but now I know
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Yeah mad that people don’t even read topic titles. I mean was this thread asking what the buttons do, or was it specifically asking you, as the user, what you would like them to do?

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