Why are my prints slipping off the plate MID PRINT?!

i was printing a dummy 13 model 180% and while i was printing some parts for it and the prints came off. this is the 3rd time this has happened for the SAME pieces already. my bed temp is 55c on a textured PEI plate and my nozzle temp is 220 for POLYMAKER PLA (non silk) and im using the 0.16 mm optimal on the P1S printer. anything i can do??

NOTE: some settings i changed on the 0.16 is that the first layer print speed is changed from 50 mm/s to 15mm/s.
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this is what im tryna print

STATUS: not yet solved

Hello,

  1. Try and Dry out your filament.
  2. Clean your bed with hot soapy water.
  3. Avoid touching the bed with your hands (oil on hands stop the print sticking)

Happy printing! Hope you can get the issue fixed, if these don’t work, Tesco me privately and I will take a closer look.

Thanks,

OTpandy1

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good afternoon. my filament is at 30% moisture on the device you buy for the AMS and this is what the interface in orca looks like
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If that’s fine, the only other thing I can think of is cleaning your bed.

Thanks for your quick reply,

OTpandy1

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Try a water based glue and seperating objects if it is a multi object plate
Glue Stick for Build Plate | Bambu Lab UK Store

perhaps i can heat up the plate and the nozzle more so that it has a chance to stick? i changed some things, i made the ā€œno cooling for X amount of layersā€ to 8 layers

Yeah, PLA temp for PEI plate is about 65.

Thanks,

OTpandy1

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i will try this now and update you. im printing something small (a foot piece from the dummy). how about rafts? would you reccomend rafts on a print like this?

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OTpandy1 probably hit the nail on the head about cleaning your plate. Normally when stuff stops sticking it’s time for a good scrub.

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i will try this after this print. thank you

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Good morning.

Having just come to the Bambu family from an Ender, I experienced the same issue. Pieces would just pop off about halfway through. For me at least, the PEI plates seem to want to be run a little hotter. I increased the bed temp to 65 and my prints are now sticking like they should. It was the same with the aftermarket plate I had on the Ender. I ran it at 70.

It sounds like you may be experiencing curling. To combat that:

  • Dry your filament (AMS humidity gives no information on actual filament moisture content. New filament is frequently wet.)
  • Replace crossing infill and surfaces with gyroid, honeycomb, monotonic lines, etc
  • Print with a warm chamber (front and top closed, you want to be between 35 and 39°C chamber temp)
  • Print with adaptive layers
  • If further measures are needed, dare to go slower in combination with even lower layer heights

:crossed_fingers:

You might wanna try .3 for that first layer that I believe is called elephant foot in settings. I had a similar issue and not sure if this will do it for you, but I removed my plate and washed it really well with soap and water. I noticed after lots of prints that sometimes oils from my fingers and residue from other prints were left behind. I will occasionally use the adhesive glue that came with the printer.

Yeah, a brim would probably be better.

it is printing fantastically thank you. i cleaned the bed with soap and warm water, then dried it.

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UPDATE: @OTpandy1 it failed again, i washed it with soap and warm water, set print bed temp to 70 on layer 1 and 65 on other ones, what else can i do?

Vison miner nano polymer works amazing to keep prints stuck to the bed. Yet once done and cooled they release easily.

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That model looks like it has a lot of small parts (harder to print). If it’s still being stubborn it might be worth breaking it up into a few smaller batches to reduce the chance of a single part fail messing everything up.

Also maybe it’s not an issue with soap or cleaning, since it was tried already, but I took someone’s advice here and grabbed this ā€˜simple as possible’ stuff, which doesn’t have extra junk in it that might contaminate a build plate:

ā€œPalmolive Ultra Dishwashing Liquid Dish Soap, Pure + Clear Fragrance Freeā€

No weird smelly stuff, coloring, anti-microbial nonsense, etc.

I print a lot of very small stuff and when I have an adhesion issue it’s always because I was lazy and didn’t clean the part of the plate I used before.

I guess there is also the option of using a smooth plate if that is available. That thing can be a real pain to get small parts off of, even when using the Vision miner nano polymer mentioned above (which is awesome) - stuff sticks a little TOO well on that plate.

For the soap you want the most ā€œnormalā€ dish soap available, dawn in NA or fairy liquid in europe are the general recommendations. You want to stay away from anything with fragrances, additives or oils. For the actual cleaning, use warm water and a clean sponge. Do not use scotchbrite/steel wool/woven copper scrubbers, only use a normal clean sponge.

Another thing I always do when dealing with bed adhesion issues is to add an 8mm brim to the parts. Brims can be annoying to remove sometimes, but way less annoying than failed prints.

You could also just print in PETG and forget about bed adhesion issues.

hi, 10 mm - 20 mm brims fixed it for me. mouse ears and in/out brims were the magic sauce. thank you everyone.

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