Why does everyone talk so positively about these mediocre printers?

This an A1 thread. So it’s the AMS lite they are talking about :wink:

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I purchased an X1C, I knew 0% about 3D printing, never used one in my life. I am mechanically inclined (if that makes a difference). I had zero issues setting this thing up it worked flawlessly from the time I plugged it in. I started my 3D printing life with one the most difficult mediums ASA. I was printing great prints from day 1. I didn’t have to spend hours trying to figure out bed levelling and other issues I’ve read about from other printers. It just worked great out of the box. That’s my story and that’s why I will always speak positively of these “GREAT” printers.

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I got into 3D printing back in November and after 6 months of Youtubing and forums to educate myself, and reading what others go through, I have to say I feel lucky to be in Arizona. I don’t know that I would have lasted in the 3D printing world if I lived in a humid area.

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I can only speak for my self, my own experiences here.
I came from an Ender 3 Pro, not a V2, or V3, like original Ender 3.

It’s a world of difference. My A1 mini had some problems with top-layers on one of my first prints with the test filament. I placed a full spool of Bambulabs PLA basic on there, and the same print then came out flawless.

i switched to a 0.2mm nozzle, and did a few smaller/detail prints (RPG minis) again, no problems.

I switched back to the 0.4 and tried to print a file direct from maker world, and it came out pretty bad. Not even useable. I downloaded the STL and use the default print profiles in Bambu Studio instead of the the ones in the 3Mf from the designer, and it printed fine.

Lastly I’ve had some issues addressed by using Orca slicer instead of the official Bambu Studio, I’m not sure in the technical aspects of it, Orca more often than not will slice the same file, and estimate a (very) slightly quicker print time. I personally haven’t noticed nay difference, but I’ve seen some users on reddit and other places claim that printing the same model, from each program, can produce different results (sometimes better, sometimes worse)

All in all, I’ve had almost no problems. It’s SO SO SO much quieter than my ender. I don’t miss having to mess with a scrap of paper, and some bed-leveling g-code every dozen prints. (even with a CR-touch, which was a pain to install). And compartivley, I paid the same for my A1-mini as I did for my first Ender, and the feature set, speed, and quality are orders of magnitude better.

I can’t speak for Bambu’s support, as I’ve not had to use it yet.

So when you say “mediocre” I guess I just have a different perspective. To me, these printers are a great step up from what I had.

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I think that’s exactly what JoeJoe was pointing out… it’s easier to get a flat tire on a used car and on a brand new, yet learning to do it on a used car is slightly more simple as there’s ton of information as for a brand new model it might not be always the same intuitive way… as a former owner of a -now- heavily modded E3V2 I can tell you switching over to a X1C is so much more simple and yet I’ve figured out that without knowing how to tweak it would be a total headache…

I would rather give my kids an old car to learn to drive than the last model of a new high tech car as it would help them understand as well the mechanics of what they are doing but I think it’s matter of preferrences as well

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I found the on boarding to be amazingly smooth, but have found a few printing spaghetti glitches that I was not expecting

Anyone who spends any time here can see that there are always posts about print issues and failures caused by wet filament. No idea if OPs issues were water or not but lots of other print issues are water. Posts here can explode with print issues as seasons change, etc.

If anyone is having issues with printing that can be due to filament moisture (models not sticking to the build plate, lifting corners, surface defects, poor layer adhesion, top surfaces having scarring from dragging extruder nozzles (because the model is lifting), etc), please look into filament drying.

These printers print pretty fast and that seems to make moisture more critical. It’s just a fact of life. If you print or store filament where there is high humidity, you may even be making the issue worse. If prints that worked stop printing clean, that can be a sign it might be water. And filament storage - especially in humid environments - can also be a factor.

New filament fresh from the shipping bag can also be “wet” and is no guarantee. And filament like PLA may give you more headroom for water but it can still have water issues. Other, known moisture-loving filaments like PETG HF and TPU can be real pains to print until you get a handle on filament moisture in general.

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I love my new A1. After correcting an assembly error that was entirely my own fault i have printed perfect parts in PlA, PLA+, PETG, PETG CF and ASA plus a number of Maker PLA models using LAN and cloud mode with Bambu slicer and Handy Bambu. Thank goodness I did not return it after i found the quick guide at the bottom of the box.

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Dude…just sell this printer you hate so much and get yourself whatever you fancy.
And then complain somewhere else what a shitty printer you got.
News flash: none of them will meet your expectations.

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I’m new to it all. Got given my A1 mini new for Christmas.
Awesome thing. Printed around 20 different things all came out perfectly. It’s addictive. I’m an old bloke so learning new tricks comes with difficulty. Not with this.
The finish is Amazing. The learning experience is fun. Every day I’m finding new stuff out.
Hope you get your issues sorted. Good luck

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LOL! You guys who work for Bambu Lab competitors are a trip! Every other review of he Mini had the same results as I did, my Mini printed perfetctly right out of the box and still prints perfectly after a year. Until you Bambu Lab competitors get your ■■■■ together to make even a somewhat comparable printer for $200 as the Mini you will continue to lose market share to Bambu Labs and for good reason! I still admire Prusa for great print quality but most of the other competitors of Bambu Labs will go out of business soon unless they really up their game.

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I’m not being rude when i say this but, from my experience with this printer and time I’ve spent reading different forums and troubleshooting 90% of the time its user error. Me and my sibling both got an A1 at the same time, She had no issue with quality but I did. Due to the table i had it on vibrating with the printer, read a forum and got a 16x16 cement paver and a 16x16 rubber paver t put under it and now my quality is better than my sisters. I had no issues with understanding the instructions in the box and everything was complete, perhaps you have something enabled on what you scanned the qr code with that is preventing it from loading all the resources. Printing the wrong file for a scraper is not a problem with the printer, you selected what to print not the printer. If the Nozzle moves up from the print and goes to the back right of the print bed its the nozzle clog detection that helps prevent the blob of death, if it goes to the nozzle wiper its a timelapse, which can be easily missed if its checked. If it is unchecked and is still going too the wiper you can enable print by object and it will disable the timelapse entirely, if it still goes to the wiper it’s another issue I haven’t been able to read about. It just seems to me a lot of what you are complaining about the printer are things that can be troubleshooted or are caused by user error.

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Totally agree, so many people complain but what they don’t realize is most of their problems or their fault and that non Bambu printers have many more issues

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With the next firmware “Auth system”, I think that many of us will change opinion about Bambu Lab which wil be the only one to decide what that printer may do…
We baught a printer but others decide of it uses, not fare at all !

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So far 4 months in no fail print all good (touch wood) as a total newbie the experience has been surprisingly easy if all rules are followed. Bar one adhesion issue caused by me not cleaning the bed all good. Of course there will be some issues out there as mentioned in a previous reply. Me for one is very happy.

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Like others have said - my (P1S) printer came out of the box, connected, and was running the benchy in literally minutes. And I have not tweaked anything and it just prints and prints and prints everything I throw at it.

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I mean wet filament is a failure on their part. spools are easy to dry.

its not necessary to use the sd card. no one uses t he sd card. if you dont have wifi you should NOT be doing anything on computers until you resolve that simple problem.

I hate to be ‘that’ guy, but the word is shill. But your comments are good.

I very much disagree with you. I found the setup experience with all 3 BL I have (A1, A1 mini and X1C) probably the easiest with any 3D printer I had. But most likely it depends on what you mean with just works.
If you expect any 3D printer to have a flawless print everytime or bugless software software everything there is ofcourse no “just prints”

My experience is that, with any device or software, if you have spent a little time with it you can make a better assesment if something works or not.

What I normally do when spending money on something I do my research on things like youtube so I know what to expect and also therefore if something is not working as intended.

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