Why does my H2D only show two possible build plate types?

Why does my H2D only show two possible build plate types while P1S shows five
Here’s the build plate menu for my P1S

And for the H2D

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It only shows official plates

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Is there a reason BL only offers the two plate types for the H2D?

Production time I guess. Even third parties are still just coming up with plates. But selling on Aliexpress is very different than selling as a global corporation…

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Thems the only 2 plates that Bambu has released; texture pei and smooth plate flavors. And if you want to know why Bambu has not added any support for third plarty plates… well, nobody knows but perhaps Bambu is conceited and resents the competition… yeah I don’t know. They haven’t even come out with the Supertac plate yet.

I remember the old days… uh well even now a company like apple would put out the measurements of a phone for case makers before that iPhone was even released so that companies could make cases immediately and be ready for the iPhone release. But Bambu don’t do that.

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or maybe Bambu don’t want the hassle of having to support third party products that they have no control over…

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I too am waiting on them to release more plates for the H2D.

I love the textured and smooth PEI - but I’d love more options.

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The fact the vision plate doesn’t come standard with the printer and costs an extra hundred bucks tells you all you need to know about Bambu. They are becoming the victim of their own success.

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Machines used to come just one way, one plate/table… Vision encoders didn’t exist… Is this a Bambu problem? Or a consumer mindset problem…

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Cars used to not come with AC… Is expecting air conditioning a consumer mindset problem? :roll_eyes:

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Actually, someone posted a bambu rep explaining (in french) that bambu did not think the vision encoder will be purchased at all and certainly not in this amount as per the rep it does almost nothing for the regular user and it was only targeted to professionnal user needing precise fitness of parts like gears or other similar items. The rep in the video was apologizing to all users having purchased a vision encoder plate… This certanly explains why it did not come with the printer.

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Heh sure. You can buy with or without it, my bike for example has no AC and I’m not at all annoyed by the manufacturer.

Including the vision plate would just inflate the price. Be grateful a machine like the H2D is even in the price bracket it is, this is an incredible feat and would not be possible until now (we needed a company like Bambu with a critical mass of market penetration for it to be remotely possible).

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I’d like to see this video, I don’t buy it. The vision plate has its uses for the average consumer as well, and I just don’t see a company ever apologizing for selling something that they still sell and expect people to purchase.

Well I definitely think since Bambu has gotten a taste of selling things more expensively with the H2D that they liked it so much that they are charging a lot for everything related to the H2D. Whereas before they were known as being most affordable.

Vision Encoder is $110 and the ad on the page sets some pretty big questionable expectations.
AMS2 comes with nothing and costs a frightful $360+shipping+tax w/o anything else! And it is nearly the same AMS still without even a digital temp/hygrometer on it. You’d think the Pro in the AMS 2 Pro would at least add a simple digital readout.
The power adapter for the heater is sold separately at $33 a pop. Old Bambu would have included or sold it at $20ea.
The High Flow Nozzles are $50ea and you need 2.
The H2D build plates are at least $60ea.
The single AMS HT after taxes and shipping is near $200!

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Well no bike has air conditioning so I’m not sure what you are trying to prove with that statement, at least come back with something that makes sense. I get that not every accessory will come as standard with every printer, but IMHO there is no reason the encoder plate should have to be purchased separate.

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/agreed

Bambu knows they are #1 and now their price reflects it. Prusa is the same way… My issue with Prusa is they give you a bare bones printer and charge out the nose for it because “Prusa is reliable” and it has a cult following.

The vision encoder web page needs to be more straightforward with what it is intended for if they are going to charge for it like that IMHO. There are popular YouTube videos of these content creators complaining about how the vision encoder didn’t obviously effect the quality of their benchys… Its an ignorant claim based off not understanding the real purpose and the Bambu website contributes to it the way certain things are worded.

I think it should have just been included, I know those things are pennies to produce. But that’s just me apparently.

Seems 3D printing as a whole is getting more expensive.

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The first topic of the video. And don’t get me wrong, I have one :wink:

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I appreciate that, very interesting candor from that distributor. I saw what you are talking about at 2:43, I think context is important here. Sounds to me like he was talking about that particular event and not in general, def not “all” users.

What you said in your last post is not what I got at all, where does he claim Bambu did not think it would be purchased at all? I think you’re correct in explaining what it does but your interpretation of that interview is a little off.

I work for a national robotics company and we have overseas distributors that say all kinds of crazy things. I seriously doubt anyone at Bambu China would agree with him. That’s just what I got from it though…

That was my recollection and I may have put words in his mouth when he was saying the plan was more like a vision encoder in 3D print club where it could be shared between users. Thing is this guy is not a distributor, he is apparently BambuLab Europe General Manager…

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None of their other machines changed prices, so that really invalidates your argument.

The H2D price is incredibly low for what it is. Compare it against say, a Markforged desktop printer like the Mark Two I started out with.

This is absolutely a consumer mentality issue, because not a single industrial user sees it your way.

3d printing as a whole gets cheaper every year.

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