Why We’re Upgrading Our Points System

16 featured models! You must be doing something right,

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I believe they didn’t write a very smart comment. For many reasons people already explained.
But not having models doesn’t mean not contributing to the community though.
And it’s not like models are shared just for philanthropy here… I could point people with hundreds of models and most likely arming the community. :grimacing:
Probably the people that caused all of this…

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I get your point, but there’s something you might be overlooking: AI can be a powerful ally even with tools like Fusion and Blender. It’s not just about generating a model with a prompt, but using AI to accelerate the creative process, generate scripts, or come up with parametric solutions that would otherwise take hours to develop. You might not immediately see how AI fits with these tools, but it’s a support that makes the work easier, especially with complex projects.
If you don’t understand how it works, that doesn’t mean AI isn’t doing valuable work. And if MakerWorld really wants to promote creativity, they should embrace AI as part of the process. In fact, they might even want to remove the term “MakerLab”, since AI is now a fundamental resource for everyone, from beginners to professionals.

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Yes i think you missed the context of “that” as in, they aren’t just going to be throwing hundreds of dollars at you a week, yes its a rewards platform, it is not a replacement for your job

Sure but you would have to be pumping out loads of very popular models constantly, and even then, you’re probably still going to make more by making something other people can sell and offering paid commercial subscriptions rather than relying on downloads

Let me just jump in and say, as someone who lurks here frequently, in the last six months there has been an influx of new users who jump in head first posting nothing but contrarian opinions. Are they all the same person? Who knows, but they sure are similar. I guess what I’m saying is if you see people posting things that don’t quite add up (like @RetroSharky pointed out) don’t put too much time in responding to them, they might just be stirring things up.

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When people complain about using AI to generate content, it’s because it’s obvious that AI was used.

If people were using AI the right way, nobody would ever know, unless it was disclosed.

No, the expectation was never that this would end up paying you more than working an actual job for the overwhelming majority of creators

The issue is the people that think they should be showered with points because they spent time making a model that doesn’t get many downloads because it took them ages to make, which isn’t really how any of this works, you could spend 200 hours making an intricate model, but if its not something people actually want to print its not going to get many points, bambu isn’t going to prop you up by giving you more points per download just because of the time you spent, if you want to be paid per hour spent then do commissions and custom models for people as a business

Yeah unless you’re a super popular creator thats not going to happen, every model has a finite consumer base and points for any given model will dry up, they are not going to tick over indefinitely so you have to keep making new things

No, they see 3D modelling as their job, there is a reason they are on multiple sites and have a Patreon for commercial licensing, that is where they make most of their money, yes they will make some from MW, but that is not their primary income source as they know they aren’t going to be able to live on just that income alone

Same goes for other big creators, this is just a supplementary income stream, not the primary one, if MW were to cease to exist right this second, they would carry on just fine

They already know not to put all their eggs in one unsustainable basket

Last i checked this isn’t “my” platform, i think you have me confused with someone else

I meant it from the makerworld prospective.
I mean, i’m not English mother tongue and I may write odd things, but my post started with “If you don’t address the situation”.

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Would you be so kind to show me where designers like Sabre Design on other platforms have their designs marked in Maker World as EXCLUSIVE? For which they get paid REAL money?

If a labor generates money, that labor can become a job, or is it that now temporary jobs are not considered work either?

And on the other hand, you should read the thread again because you are not understanding it, we are not complaining that downloads are decreasing, or that less points are earned, the main complaint that we repeat throughout this thread, is that the rules are becoming opaque, unclear, and this makes it difficult for designers to set clear goals within the platform.

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Commercial licences + money 4 exclusive points = income greater than average wage in multiple countries for “really popular creators”

Guite honestly, makerworld’s move to introduce that (exclusive bonus + native commercial licences) was move in “replacement for job” direction. Before that it was just a “very generous rewards program”

your don’t know the expectation because:

This is NOT the issue, at least the complaints I’ve seen on here are about lack of transparency in this point change.

It’s Makerworld that expresses desire to put thumb on a scale in favour of complex, less downloaded models rather than creators:

See?

IMHO - the actual problem with rewards system that does hurt both makerworld’s budget and the experience of users is:

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Some might not like ChatGPT, but I had it help me figure out roughly how many pages @thatcaddad has typed up after 2 days of nonstop typing

We’ll assume a few things here. 24/7 typing, no breaks. Average typing speed (40 words per a minute). We’ll define pages as a standard MS Word page with the default font, single spacing.

So we’re looking at around 230 pages.

I asked ChatGPT what are some good books of similar length.

The Da Vinic Code, The Hobbit, Dune, Life of Pi, Pet Sematary, Twilight!

Gosh, and he’s not even done.

“A relentless odyssey of keystrokes and chaos—just when you think it’s over, he’s still typing.”
The Imaginary Times

“I started Still Typing… after my wife left me, the cat bit me, and my ceiling collapsed—so maybe I wasn’t in the mood for 230 pages of existential keystrokes. But damn it, ThatCadDad got me. I laughed, I cried, I stayed up all night. I hate how much I needed this book.”
Ron H., emotionally compromised Goodreads reviewer

“OMG. Like… what even is life after Still Typing…?? I thought it was just some weird book about typing but NOPE—it’s deep and funny and lowkey made me question everything?? ThatCadDad is literally a genius and I’m obsessed now :computer::broken_heart::sparkles:
@Bookish_BubbleTea, age 14, future philosopher probably

“Back in 2097, when I first read Still Typing… from the digital ashes of post-internet Earth, I wept. Not just for the lost Wi-Fi… but for the beauty of ThatCadDad’s prose. This book is why we rebuilt civilization.”
Ghost of Bill Clinton, Former President / Temporal Literary Critic

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Sabre has models on printables, they might not be the same identical models but they are on multiple platforms and hedging their bets, i never said they had the exact same models in multiple places, but that “they” as an entity were in multiple places and that they would continue on just fine even if MW were to disappear, nobody is dumb enough to rely entirely on a single platform for all of their income if they are actually serious about it

Where did i say that modelling wasn’t their job? i said that MW itself isn’t their job, because it isn’t, its a PART of their job not the entire thing, the same way anyone who sells thing commercially will use multiple platforms to sell their items so that any single platform doesn’t become the single point of failure should it go under

I mean the rules look the same, upload models, get downloads, get points, nothing seems to have changed for me in that regard other than me waiting until midnight to get the point notifications, my traffic has been pretty stable and continues to sit at the same level before and after the changes and i haven’t even uploaded anything in a while (nearly 3 months) so i’m just seeing traffic from the same old models i’ve had sat on MW, so i’m not really seeing any difference, which i assume means i’m just complying with the rules

Out of all the glitches the forum is currently experiencing I think the one that makes it look like @thatcaddad is responding non-stop 24/7 is my favorite :joy:

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I see them making a statement, but its realistically not a solution you solve, if people aren’t engaging with a model then why should it be given more points just because its more complex?

If its not getting downloaded and made then there is an issue that needs resolving but that seems more like something the creator has to deal with rather than something MW would actually deal with, as i’ve said in this thread already, it doesn’t matter how complex a model is if it doesn’t solve a need

So in 3 days I’ve earned 15 points. This is less than a tenth of what I was earning before the 17th. The boosts seem to have entirely dropped off aswell (I received none to give out either despite have a few longer prints done over the week)

I’d call this bad, the amount of downloads & prints seem to have remained the same, I’ve changed nothing but now my contribution is deemed less worthy than others?
Alot of my stuff is wall art, I have some more complex items, I even have a box but I do it all by scratch, print, test, adjust, then publish.

It’s very disheartening really & it won’t be just me, it’ll be all the other small creators just releasing things they made for themselves & wanted to share.

I cant say i mind the new system

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If this is real, the system is aboslutely ruined.

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They did say contest entries… are way to greatness :smiley:

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Honestly I might just quit contests altogether, I wish I could block them from my page

They are already so broken, they reward incredible reach even if a project is unfinished or just gets in at the right time

They are constantly full of spam, 5 entries each is ridiculous

People constantly dodge the rules, deleting old entries and re-uploading them, V2 V3 etc spam, copycat projects all over the place

half the stuff not even theme appropriate, it might have the theme as text on a surface or keychain

some people just type the contest theme into AI and post the 5 things it generates

And now they are rewarding it even more?

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