Hi
Is any (in real life) difference between X1C to P1P?
Speed, print quality etc?
Just simple pla, petg.
I understand no AI and no lidars, but after years with DIY printers, I hope I manage basic settings 
Any ideas to save or pay more ~ £400?
And also I understand, if I need, just replace hotend and extruder assembly for hardened steel and CF is printable?
Regards
For only PLA and PETG the P1P is a safe thing.
But other Filaments, such as ABS, PC etc. want a high ambient temperature and therefore a fully enclosed chamber.
save your money, get the P1P, spend $30 on ABS panels from your local hardware store and screw them to the sides, another $30 for a piece of acrylic for the top and front and you’re all set. If you want a hardened extruder and nozzle that only costs another $40. It may not be as pretty as the X1 but it’s just as functional.
You can also just put the printer in a $50 tent and be done with it.
As Hobo has already written correctly. if you don’t need a lidar scanner, the P1P is basically the same printer but without the housing. but if money is no object, then it may also be the X1. that’s the two differences, reason vs. I have enough money ;.)
I’m in the finishing stages of printing this enclosure for the P1P. Hopefully the laser cut plexiglass side panels will be here on Monday… I would have considered the X1 or X1C except that the LIDAR is not recommended on the PEI bed which would be my surface of choice, so there isn’t much between them.
https://www.printables.com/model/356301-arc-for-bambu-lab-p1p
This is not really true. In particular, the P1P has a slower, weaker processor and appears to lack some firmware features the X1 has. The difference in user interface is obvious.
Sure the control panel on the printer is different. Is it worse? Not really. I actually prefer the P1P controls, and most anything can be done on the Handy app anyways. For printing does the processor make a difference? Doesn’t seem like it, like its there for the touchscreen, camera, and the lidar.
is there any diferrences on the hot ends? beacuase in their web the hot ends are diferent but have the same price…
The full assembled hotend are differnt only with the connector. If you look at the non assembled hotends, they are identical.
With PLA the P1P also prints slower as the aux fan is missing. You would also have to upgrade it with an aux fan for similar print speeds.
Yeah, but the aux fan, mc fan, hardened steel extruder, and hardened steel nozzle can all be bought as separate upgrades. You can make an enclosure, but I don’t know of any way of upgrading the controller for the screen. Besides that and the lidar, everything else seems identical. Oh, and the bed temp, but I am not experienced enough to say if 120 degree vs 100 degree bed makes a big difference. I could also be missing some stuff.
With all the necessary upgrades, I’d not bother trying to get P1P to print high temp materials like ABS .
It’s easier to buy printer equipped to do so from factory. And also cheaper, if you don’t mind buying from companies with not so good reputation as far as quality control is concerned. Creality K1 seems to be very good competitor for X1 and X1C, at least with regard to price and features.
If printing PETG and PLA is the primary goal I would go with a P1P as well. I have X1CC (the P1P was no option at that time) and honestly most of the feature of the X1C I don’t even use 
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It is not question of money but question of how much your time is worth. If you work at mcdonalds flippin burgers for 10$ an hour, then yes, doing DIY enclosure is way to go. But if you are paid 100+ bucks an hour, then just get X1C and save time thus money.
I don’t think the comparison does really apply - only if you need the printer for making money and can’t afford non-profit side projects
I really wanted a X1 (non-Carbon) but Bambu stopped listing them so I settled with a P1P. In hindsight, I should have just bought the X1 Carbon. I’m seeing about a $200 savings after I added all the optional parts and the X1 door and top to my P1P, but there are features that are still locked out of the P1P. I don’t think there is a substantial difference functionally (not a believer in the lidar), but the convenience items have a value for me, like the vastly improved LCD/touchscreen and a firmware that works cleanly with all the modifications (not to mention not having to micky mouse anything). If I had it to do again I’d spend a little more on the X1-Carbon. But then again, I’ve always been rubbed the wrong way with the naked frame, so I should have known better what was going to be the best for me.
Just know, an enclosure really makes printing easier/enjoyable (even if its not needed for PLA). But to enclose a P1P, Bambu is suggesting quite a few modifications to make it reliable (heat resistance improvements)… so be aware that going with the P1P may create a need to modify more than you initially planned for.
All said, the P1P is a great 3D printer regardless of any deficiency. I honestly don’t think anyone would be unhappy with either.
For me, I was ready for an upgrade, but the X1C was just a little out of my price range. After much debate, I realized I really didn’t need the upgraded user interface and App Processor. I don’t print anything that needs an enclosure.
I think the Lidar and print-head camera are innovative and I am glad Bambu Labs is pushing the envelope. At the end of the day, it’s not much work to calibrates the filament parameters (temperature, flow rate, pressure advance, etc) once manually rather than having it calibrated automatically before each print. I also considered that it’s extra weight on the print-head and more things to break too.
I happy with my P1P and I glad Bambu Labs offered it. I would have probably ended up with an Ender-5 S1 if they only offered the X1C. I’ve already seen some Ender-5 S1 owners say they prefer the P1P.
So many have already covered this.
If all you want to do is predominantly PLA then honestly any printer is good. It comes down to what features you want.
I bought the X1 because I want color printing and thought the lidar etc… Would be cool.
I know I’m going to get another printer and it has to do color. I can’t say I’d get another X1. I love mine and I like the lidar etc … now that the camera comes with the P1 it’s a tough choice.
That said, I kinda like the lidar feature. I can’t count how many times I’ve just sent a print and never checked first layer. I know I should but when I send a print with a first layer that uses 60% of the bed space and has more than 5 color changes, I’m not sitting there for the 25 min it takes to put down a first layer; especially when I know the lidar hasn’t let me down yet. So far I’ve had zero issues.
This is all based on hobby printing. I can’t say what it takes to run a print farm or a business that does prototyping etc… Everything I do is for home use or for art projects.
