X1C : Patches of poor first-layer adhesion. I'm at my wits end!

I’m getting patches of what looks like poor bed adhesion on my X1 Carbon with a 0.4 mm nozzle. Most of the underside looks fine, but some areas appear to lift and bunch up, leaving damaged patches and messy edges. Photos attached.

So far I’ve:

  • Washed the plate with warm water and washing-up liquid.

  • Rinsed and dried it thoroughly without touching the printing surface.

  • Checked underneath for debris and made sure the plate sits flat.

  • Lube and greese all the parts and general maintenance

  • Run bed levelling before printing.

  • Run a full printer calibration.

  • Moved the print around

  • Some times come out fine.

Still having the same issue. Does this look like an adhesion problem, or could something else be causing it? What would you check next?

Is this all happening with one build plate?

2 different ones
and Flipping it over too

Have you printed this item previously? What build plate are you using?

The gold textured one.
The printer is 4000 hour in

Believe it or not, I still think you have a build plate contamination issue.

A couple things. First, some contaminants such as silicone-based lubricants can be extremely difficult to remove from surfaces, to the point where if they’ve transferred to the actual heat bed (from flipping the build plate) they’ll just keep re-contaminating the build plate even if you’ve thoroughly cleaned it. Unfortunately the linear rails sitting directly above the build plate are lubricated with these exact compounds, and very small amounts can be shed onto the plate.

Which I’m going to say may not actually be the case either.

Hot water, plain dish soap, and scrub the entire surface with a clean nylon scrub brush. Dry with a clean paper towel after.

This is a good way to visualize if your plate is truly clean:

PEIPlate_1

If indeed there’s a persistent contamination problem, you’re also going to want to clean the heat bed. Soap and water aren’t a great solution here, something like degreasing wet wipes that are residue free are potentially a good answer.

That is very helpful.
I will look into this asap.

Another thought: what are you using as a release agent?