So I guess we got the official confirmation for the X1E today, after the new Release for Bambu Studio officially added support for the printer:
Guess it will just be a matter of time, until we get the final release for this.
So I guess we got the official confirmation for the X1E today, after the new Release for Bambu Studio officially added support for the printer:
Guess it will just be a matter of time, until we get the final release for this.
Already knew this 4 hours ago
And what is the x1e? Specs?
The “E” stands vor “Ethernet” …
@Bambulab
Will there be an Ethernet upgrade for the X1C?
I don’t care so much about the hard wired ethernet port, but it would be really nice to have an upgrade path to the 320 degC hotend and active chamber heating. From the link above, it looks like Bambu is handing this one through resellers - not surprising for a product hawked to professionals.
320ºC hotend and 60ºC chamber is not much of an improvement, I guess it’s just what BL can achieve when constrained by using the X1 construction. Still probably more than worth it for enterprises that would otherwise have to choose Ultimaker or similiar.
Let’s hope one day we could get an affordable machine that can print PEEK But I doubt that’s happening. Water cooling + consumer/prosumer-grade 3D printer = disaster.
I was 100% wrong on this one. Looks like we have a new flagship
Hope we can buy the recirculating air filter and heater as upgrades to the x1c
If someone from bambu is reading then new questions for FAQ (X1E FAQ | Bambu Lab Wiki ):
is " X1E can actively compensate for XY-axis vibrations and extrusion issues to ensure exceptionally smooth print quality" feature the same as on X1C or this is related to A1-like compensation or something else?
is MSRP 2499USD price with or without AMS?
Bambu claims “no” for X1C → X1E upgrade path - X1E FAQ | Bambu Lab Wiki
I wish there was an option for PEEK and PEKK printing in the consumer arena. I guess you can find options, but nothing in the realm of BBL’s current lines. The current set of high temp printers don’t seem to be as well thought out, from a user experience perspective.
I’d argue, water cooling is not difficult in this day and age. But the upgraded parts will definitely need an elevated cost. Then the real question, is there really a market for a $2,500 high temp printer where the filament costs $600/kg? I would likely get in line for one but, I don’t think that market would be large. Filament cost alone, is completely prohibitively expensive.
Water cooling is completely doable in a Voron and for a Voron user. I don’t think it would even be that expensive to implement for something built like the X1. But if you have spent any time on BL Facebook groups or here on forum - do you really want some of those people here messing with a water-filled printer connected to mains, troubleshooting something? Even now what “ordinary” people are asked to do with their printers is pushing it… a lot
On the other hand - PEEK wouldn’t cost $600/kg if Bambu made a printer suitable for it and sold their own blend of plastic with similiar properties. It would be costly, sure, but more like <$200/kg because there would be so many more people buying it then. That’s assuming there’s a real market for it, though. I like playing with engineering materials, and I print a lot, but 99% of my prints are PLA and while I’d like to be able to print PEEK, I probably wouldn’t print more than a roll or two a year.
No, I don’t think so. Dr. Tao confirmed in an interview that there will be a larger printer soon which will as well be the 2nd generation. So, the X1E is just a slight but expensive upgrade for enterprises. They will not care about 1k€ price increase. Yes, X1E is better on paper than the X1, but I would not call that flagship but rather some new features for the same platform.
It has some good features that I would like to, but don’t need to have.
The 320ºC now makes more sense; I didn’t know PPS. But I didn’t understand why PPA is not printable in the X1C.
It also defines a clear end for the X1C upgradability; at least officially, as with the number of users and the printer value, I would expect users and third-party manufacturers to try to incorporate the X1E features into the X1C.
My only surprise was the price tag; it is an increase of 67%. The difference is enough to get a P1S and another AMS. Maybe the X1C price was a sort of campaign to enter the market.
Regarding the 2nd generation, if the release is within the next six months, and with breakthrough upgrades as promised, the "X2C or “X2E” costs must be significantly higher and massively higher for the larger model (aka “XL”).
It would be a reasonable price for a company if it comes with technical assistance.
Me too. But my motivation is not a need but a geek’s wish. Even at 200 $/kg, it would be challenging to justify the regular use. Who knows, maybe 3rd or 4th generation, if it fits into the desktop printers market?!?
That’s because it’s an enterprise machine. It’s not aimed at “us” but at businesses, and I doubt the offering ends with just the hardware side, but there’s bound to be a service and support contract there as well.
Enterprisey usually means both vintage and pricey.This is just pricey ;-D
In that case, I would say that the price is reasonable.
Maybe the service is provided by the resellers.
I think they meant the E to stand for Enterprise. But for me, the E stands for Expensive. $2500 X1E AMS combo vs $1450 X1C AMS combo. E—- xpensive for sure.
Unfortunately, the X1C can not be upgraded to X1E using accessories.
The X1 and X1C printers do not support the installation of the chamber heating module and the wired network module.
Additionally, the X1 and X1C printers do not support installing the hotend assembly of the X1E (including the heater, NTC, and thermal grease).
That FAQ entry only mentions the chamber heater and wired network modules, as well as the hotend assembly. There is still hope for the air filtration module.
You would have to replace the mid plane panel to get the new air filtration. The new air filter is much larger than what’s in X1C