Just so many wrongs, I guess you don’t understand.
Not going to say more.
btw 2k followers means nothing in my opinion.
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Excellent policy re spamming. I hope these bad apples find something useful to spend their time and energy on.
You are correct. The moment I no longer receive points for my models, I am out of here.
Excellent suggestion! +1
That is why MakerWorld should improve the Searching tools. Search should be the norm to find models, not browsing… Unless you have a coffee and need to entertain yourself… 
Probably I would never trust a model that has not been printed.
Nearly every model I have made, I have had to print many iterations, tweak to get a final correct model (I mainly make functional designs like mounts, enclosures, holders, replacement parts all of which dimensions are important)
Printability usually needs printing to prove that it it’s printable, but do note that because there is a print profile in uploads, it is mathematically possible to say if something is printable but there are grey areas where some non printable features of a model are intentional compromises.
I come down on the side that models should have pictures but exceptions could be made for model makers who demonstrate that 99% of the models they upload without printing works for those that download. This would likely help those say making different sized containers for a gridfinity system, where tweaking the size is unlikely to invalidate its fit
Like what some others have said, users that upload should need to verify their accounts, especially if they are amassing points.
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It is super easy to pump out CAD/Blender files for models that look absolutely fantastic and popular, render it with a realistic backdrop and even add a texture that looks like its been printed. The moment its in the slicer though, those curves, overhangs, gaps, etc are suddenly not so nice or even practical. So you’ve sliced it with supports and send it to print. The result is ok-ish but happy enough for a 4star rating. Then the arm snaps off because its too thin for decent layer adhesion, the swivel head doesn’t move because the print-in-place joint just had no chance due to sagging, the finer features in the rendered pic don’t show up as the line-width can’t get there.
I spot a few models uploaded today that fall into this category, they are renders of practical everyday items that you’d buy off the shelf. One particular one I hazard a guess its never been printed as any orientation is doomed to fail in some form or another. If it was printed by the Maker, they would pick this up and do a small change to flatten a surface so the model could print upwards and layer adhesion wouldn’t cause breakage. Sigh…
I could go on, but hopefully you can understand why I think you got to stand behind your product and test it first. Prove that it works.
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I haven’t had to reprint a model I designed in close to two years unless I’m testing some new alignment system. But I do agree when it comes to functional models that interact with non printed parts, its just part of design process for functional prints. But not all models uploaded to Makerworld are going to be functional prints.
None of the other model repositories or even paid websites require a print picture. If Makerworld was trying to be very exclusive and high quality models only I could understand. But its still filled with trash, fake remixes, extruded svgs, ai art and stolen models. Getting a few gift cards isn’t getting paid I do this for fun and to give back to the cosplay community. I just want to be able to post all my models at one site. With this change I can still do that at Printables but ill only be able to upload some here. Before this change people in the community could make print profiles for me and collect points.
I haven’t had any complaints about my models and stand by my work. I would welcome a stricter verification system. I understand they probably are trying to stop low quality models and game rips with this change but it also hurts some designers like me.
I mostly do cosplay props that might take 5-15 hours each and also take up lots of space. So there is no way that I will print them all, they just wont be uploaded here with this change. They are all the same quality as the ones that I personally compete with in masters or make as paid commissions.
It smells of entitlement. You want to upload all your models here, but you don’t want to follow a rule that is for all intents an purposes made to make it fair for all.
The rule is there for good reason, its not being applied consistently enough and that is a problem. Removing this requirement would open the floodgates to even more spam and no hope of reigning in the moderation.
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This is a new rule that isn’t even in the community guidelines only in this unsticked forum post. I am just giving my feedback a new rule that affects me. It wouldn’t open the floodgates to more spam because this rule wasn’t even in place a week ago.
Agreed. In ye olde days of Thingiverse when I was new to the hobby, I quickly learned to steer clear of anything without a printed example because a render does not equal a model that can be successfully printed. I wasted a lot of time and filament on poorly executed models because I was too new to know any better.
Now that I’m on the designer side of things, I test everything I can think of until I’m reasonably sure the end-user will achieve the same result. It takes a lot of time not just because I’m new but because I want people to not regret taking a chance on something I’ve made. I don’t expect users to beta test my stuff. That’s my responsibility.
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A photo of the print is just one verification system. Community moderation might be an alternative.
Also If a user is verified then that should carry weight either in uploads or moderation but the verification would have to be tied to something that does not allow spam accounts to be created or those that are reuploading from other sites.
The issue is not that Makerworld is requesting a photo; they have every right to do so. The problem still lies in the fact that these guidelines do not mandate it. Previously, when people joined and entered into a contract with Makerworld, this requirement was not in effect. Therefore, if anyone had their points revoked based on this reason, they could potentially take legal action.
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I think people need to understand that this is NOT just a 3D model platform like Cults or Thingiverse. Most people here do not want anything to do with just a rendered model, myself included.
This is a community built around BAMBU printers, any model on Makerworld is meant to be actually printed from a Bambu printer. To dump 400 models that haven’t even been printed off of ANY printer is an insult to the platform and not what they are striving towards at all. They do not want to be the next Cults or Thingiverse, they want to be a one-step printing source for their own printers, with trusted models including proof of concept.
I think this distinction of their site versus others is very important and not talked about enough. Creators coming from other sites wondering why they are being rejected, it’s because they do not understand the mission.
What drives me crazy is that their rules are evolving by the day, making it unclear what is right and what is wrong. We have lots of featured models with just renders on the site now that were passable before, but now there are rules against this. That’s just one example. With inconsistencies like these, new users will see, copy, and do what other large creators have gotten away with, then wonder why their models are banned.
Hard to think of a solid solution, but I think one step would be actually enforcing a print profile image… seems like any picture that ends in .png or .jpg is seen as passable as a print profile to Makerworld mods.
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This! Yes! They want it to be like going to amazon, or target, or walmart, or whatever your local department store is. They want people to be able to find things they can print that are more or less complete off of the build plate. Like if they had gone into the store and purchased it.
I’m of the opinion that if there’s a print profile, there should be some sort of photo. Print profiles are suppose to be the on the shelf ready to go product!
I will say though, not everyone that puts up models unprinted are just gaming, or cheating, or lazy, or whatever. It’s a creative space after all, and not everything we do is a fully flushed out finished project, and there’s certainly a level of desire to share our work with each other, especially in more creative ventures.
That’s why I think that the photo requirement should only be there if a print profile is attached to the object. I think we should give people room to offer stuff in a draft or beta state. With the search, I’d say it shouldn’t show anything without a print profile, unless you checked a checkbox that said show me everything!
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I shamefully must admit I put up a few designs as such. They weren’t bad designs! One of them actually was kind of popular, but it did always surprise me that people printed it. I was happy to see it printed fine, but it was a big model too, so everyone that printed it was rolling the dice. I remade that model in the age of Makerworld and printed dozens of the thing before finalizing and putting it online.
Yup, yup yup. Especially bigger stuff that takes a lot of filament. My biggest release to date was a ton of filament and time in the prototyping stage. The first version was actually pretty decent, but with the first prototype, I realized all these little fiddly things I could change to make the whole experience better. Because of how filament heavy the model was, I wanted to make it as clean and reliable of an experience as I could for those that printed it.
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I think i have read, that renderings are okay. I think i read that as contest rules.
I think makerworld needs to be very specific and clear with their rules! Recent contests allowed renderings. I am a bit confused now. See photo below.
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Improving the rules, either by adding new ones or modifying existing ones, is fine. A platform needs to adapt as rule-breakers getting more agrresive and creative.
What MW needs more of is to show consistency in applying the rules. As long as there is the perception that MW makes exceptions for large accounts, one can expect more people spamming with lots of models and claim to have x number of followers in the hope that they are seen as big enough to be given the freedom to break the rules.
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https://makerworld.com/en/u/1108010400
Its a little obvious @MakerWorld AI isn’t quite there yet. Nor are the Moderators that seem to be out to lunch all day so far.
Pull your socks up MakerWorld.
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