AI generated models flooding the website

At first I didn’t even recognize this as Delta’s model :joy: Shows how misleading the photos are :eyes:

Edit: wrong reply, but my point stands

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Went down the rabbit hole of this thread again today. This new dynamic to get personal should end

Conclusions:

a) Seems you guys have all way more time than me :smiley:
b) We need community fight clubs for nafta, emea and apac

I printed @Square3D file last night. Came out great. I put both his and the other side my side and it’s sad. The uploaded stl is absolutely huge.
I have a feeling the other won’t print as well. Either way I will rate it accordingly. Think everyone knows my account name. I’m too lazy for others.

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That’s the way to do it. I had already been asked by people if they should print one or another and my answer was: try both and see. What i like is not what everyone likes.

I think it’s only fair and i am a fair guy

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This is just a reminder all to please read and adhere to the forum guidelines.

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Thanks for the heads up. For my part i already told several times that i like AI and would like this discussion to be civil and open. Of course there will be people that defend one side and people that defend the other and i get it. Besides, i think this topic is not at all about Deltaprints alone, but about many others that have been named here too.

From my part, again, i will remain civilized. Thank you for the friendly reminder :ok_hand:

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Hi all,
We highly value all the discussions on this topic and assure you that all reasonable suggestions have been thoroughly considered.
This has emerged as a trend that requires us to take serious measures and considerations before presenting a comprehensive rule and guideline. As of now, our platform is still engaged in internal discussions on how to seamlessly incorporate AI-generated models into our MakerWorld ecosystem.
We are committed to ensuring that these models do not undermine the interests and welfare of MakerWorld designers who invest countless hours in creating original designs. Moreover, they should not provide any unfair advantages or misleading information in terms of model presentation and exposure distribution.
Once a decision is reached, we will immediately inform the community.
We thank you for your patience and support on this matter.

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good to hear that there ongoing discussions around this topic, and we hope to hear news from you very soon

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Thank you for “listening” your community. I really hope you were paying attention to everything discussed here, including some creators that use your partnership as a point to not adhere to the guidelines.
Also, an important point, it’s not always about AI created models, but also the way some present AI Generated images that do not reflect the same quality/form/shape in the models. It’s not one account, they are many.

Can’t wait for news soon. Thank you once again

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Was about to come down here and say that :slight_smile:

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Oh… that’s why everyone is so good at modeling while I do my best, it’s AI…
I’ve always been trying to do my best and model something nice, but if everyone is doing it with AI…

Well not everyone lol

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The photos are AI and look really impressive. The actual models are just average design. It’s possible to actually have good non-AI photos and good non-AI design, like @h3li0 does.

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There’s a lot of room for non-ai models. AI is (it’s getting better) great for creating organic or simplistic stuff that doesn’t have any moving parts and doesn’t need to be dimensionally accurate. Even looking at the designs a lot of people pump out, using AI to “Concept” the design, a lot of it is focused around models that aren’t that complex; that most people can create within minutes.

There is a lot of room for non-ai models.

When you start talking about more complex designs, with multiple parts, assemblies, things that have motion, complex mechanical linkages. Just, there’s a whole host of complexity that AI isn’t really well suited for, and it’s inability to logic will hold it back.

I mean, to reference back to my first statement here. Even seemingly simplistic stuff takes someone with skill and attention to pull off well. You could use AI to concept a modular system, but making a perfectly fitting modular system takes some logic and thinking; it’d take a real designer to make the model. Even if we could train AI to do modular stuff, there’s going to be certain limitations because it can’t logic. It wont look at problems the way we do. All it can do is pull from it’s memory banks of what it was trained on, so if we start asking it to go beyond that we’re just going to get a tumor of what it knows, because it can’t invent what it doesn’t know.

Here. I’m going to reference my own work. I push myself every day to go further, be bolder, and push the limits of what I think I’m capable of, and push the limits of what people think 3d printing is capable of.

AI isn’t flooding the website with models like mine. People like this kind of stuff too. Not everyone just flocks to the simplistic models. There’s a hunger for interesting and complex designs. You have to consider and realize that 3d printing is like Lego, in that people like complex and interesting builds. I get repeat customers because of that, because they get excited to try out my latest build, my latest insanity.

The rewards are there too. It’s easy to see how some of these people game the system, but you’ve gotta get that out of your head. The systems in place do help reward more complex designs. The thing about more complex designs though is they also have to shine extra bright. They can’t just be eye-catching, they have to perform well too. So. Extra work, but I think the rewards can be larger if you apply and push yourself.

When you push and apply yourself, there’s a whole world beyond that which AI can create. You as an individual have something that AI doesn’t, and it’s two of the most important things. Creativity and logic.

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The real problem is the low quality models and the spamming of them on MW, which existed before the recent surge of such models generated by AI. AI is a tool, which can be used to help create high quality models, if one wants to use it that way. The tool is not the problem, but the misuse of it is.

MW can come up with rules, but my impression has been that MW’s rules are ambiguous (some belive that it’s on purpose to allow MW to make exceptions) and not enforced consistently and evenly.

I would suggest @MakerWorld start consistently and evenly enforcing existing rules, such as the requirement of real photo , to build confidence among creators.

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I just really dislike the obvious ceramic cover photo of an item, baiting people in.

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That will be one exmple. Regardless if it’s a photo of a ceramic product, or the rendering of the model, it’s not the photo of a 3D printed model. MW already has rules on this. All is needed is the enforcement of the rule. Whether or not AI is used to make the model is irrelevant.

Most CAD software nowadays have the generative modeling feature in it. In the near future, it can be good enough to be of real assistance to designers. It won’t replace the designer, however. We can embrace advancement in technology to enhance designing experience.

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And tthat is exactly the main point and where Makerworld is not delivering. They need people who moderate the uploads. This was said from the start by many and instead WE are the creators, the users and the tools used to “moderate” this kind of uploads.

I bet that if it was possible, just one time, for users not to report for a whole week, chaos would rain upon the website, being truly difficult to repair everything later.

We need options, we need to feel wanted and not only by the rewards, but by Bambulab also. We need “model” moderators, whether we like it or not. Then yes, this would be a top tier model sharing place like no other and without any competition.