The announcement reads what has to change or will be removed, but I do have questions regarding some points:
Model or profile contains misleading content:
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7、Misleading logos: For example, using official logos like “bambu,” “bambu lab,” “bambu recommend,” etc, without proper authorization can mislead users and create false trust.
What exactly is meant by that? Models that include Bambu Lab’s Logo in/on them, like we have seen a lot? MakerWorld even had some listed as featured models before.
Do I have to take down my LED Kit 001 to Bambu Lab Logo upload
because it shows the Bambu Lab logo?
To what extend would this be enforced, down to every box, case, scraper, …?
Or is the intention to get rid of uploads capitalizing on “bambu” somehow slapped on them while offering a generic or even unrelated item?
Did people edit things like the featured flag () into their pictures?
I thought about that happening when my model was no longer a featured one, but have not encountered it and would assume that MakerWorld would clean that right up immediately.
Model or profile contains misleading content:
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8、Other characters： For example， using misleading uppercase letters, emojis, or other characters.
What are “misleading uppercase letters”? - I simply assume one leading uppercase letter per word can be considered okay and acronyms like LED, AMS, LASER as well?
The logo restriction is normal for most companies. I wonder if they were made aware of this by their legal eagles and are now going to start cracking down on it?
And yes, purring an official logo on an object can create the impression in some people’s minds that it’s been officially endorsed or supplied by the owner of the logo. Normally, you can’t use a log w/o direct permission for each use, or w/o paying a licensing fee, or w/o including a statement that “This _______ is neither made by or endorsed by (company name here)”
I think the 3D printing community has been getting away with this because some manufacturers look at it as free advertising. So many people are not aware of the normal corporate requirements for logo usage.
Check and see that if you include a statement in the listing, similar to the one above, if that will meet their requirements.
i think they are leaning more towards people sticking the bambu logo on print profile pictures to make them seem like they are official profiles. not models that includes the bambu labs logo… that seems like bad business to me
It is a bummer because I have a couple of designs using the Bambu logo as well. I don’t think they intend to get rid of it all.
I suspect that this user or users like this are the cause of the announcement. Low effort uploads with the Bambu logo slapped on them. Point farming is definitely getting out of control a bit.
i think they should be more concerned about the fact that guy has so many models and not one has an actual picture of a print, every picture is just 3d renders.
I am 99% sure they are referring just to this kinda stuff:
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I really wonder how they are going to police the use of banned words like “fast”, “quick”, “limited”, “better” etc… These can get used in all sorts of ways that don’t imply any sort of competitive advantage (e.g.: “this model is limited to indoor use”). And very often you do want to highlight a competitive advantage. After all, what is a new design even for if it’s not better in some way than an existing solution? To weed out just the egregious marketing verbiage would take thousands of hours of manual screening (or worse, the use of AI). I just don’t see this as a workable policy for eliminating junk posts.
The ban on unauthorized use of logo is long overdue. I am surprised that BL didin’t act earlier and even more surprised that earlier some featured models had Bambu Lab logo on them. Accepting unauthorized use of their logo not only can lead to damage of their brand reputation long term, but it may also be viewed as MakeWorld actively encouraging copyright violations on its platform.
The ban on misleading words like fast, best, better, stronger, etc, can be and should be banned if the model or profile doesn’t live up to the claim. On the other hand, if someone uploads a profile that uses stronger settings, such as more wall counts and/or more infills, and state that the profile is stronger than a specific one that uses less wall count and infill, then the profile can not be summarily banned just because it uses the word ‘stronger’. As a practical matter, BL can flag profiles using these buzz words and give the uploader a set time to provide proves/reasons that these words are justified.
Banning the use of certain fonts or capitations are highly questionable. What is the ground for doing so? Where is the research or legal precedence that using a certain fonts or style automatically gives someone unfair competitive advantages and should be banned? Once going down this route, it can be a slippery one. What fonts are good and what fonts are bad? Who decides? I think matters like this should be up to the individual. If someone wants to annoy the users by using all caps and big bold letters, it’s their freedom and let them have at it.
Yes, it will be very complicated because the term “misleading” is very ambiguous and depends on the individual mind. I think the new way will be to just give data in the print profile title, like “6 walls” instead of “stronger”, and let the user decide if “6 walls” looks stronger to him
Not that easy, because the title is : Describe the main difference compared to the existing print profiles.
but you have to list the differences without superlatives, comparatives, etc.
Wow he really slap bambu logo on everything. I thought i have arrived at a merch site lol.
I do think there should be a clarification on what is allowed in details. But still i am happy about this cus there are some people going around taking people work just slap a bambu logo in and tadaa! Its now a remix of his work.
I’ve been going through all my models and profiles and removing words that I don’t think should be removed because I’m afraid I’m going to get hit by an automod because I used adjectives.
For example, when I recommend something in my print profile description (not the name of the profile), I do it because it will lead to the “best” or “nicest” finish. I.e., face-down models that are designed for textured plates look the best on them. Or when I’m explaining that I used an increased number of walls, it’s because it’s stronger. Or if I’ve chosen a surface pattern because it’s faster than the default one.
I believe in explaining to users what I changed and why I changed it. Not only for their education but to show that I had a good reason instead of just randomly changing stuff.
So now I’m trying to decide whether I strip out all explanations with just a list of settings and their value or by doing a word dance and replacing them with long winded explanations that very carefully do not use any adjectives or anything that remotely sounds like a claim.
Banning the use of certain fonts or capitations are highly questionable. What is the ground for doing so? Where is the research or legal precedence that using a certain fonts or style automatically gives someone unfair competitive advantages and should be banned? Once going down this route, it can be a slippery one. What fonts are good and what fonts are bad? Who decides?
This is indeed a slippery slope. I use bolding and fonts for informational purposes. I’m not randomly bolding stuff. I do it to indicate really important information or to make it easier to speed read/skim for those with executive dysfunction.
We start banning bolding etc., and we’ll get walls of text (like this comment) that are hard to read.
I’ve been reading back and it seems to be a case of be careful what you ask for as you just may get it…
While theres merit in the new rules, its not well thought out and too vague. While the initial target will be hit there are others who’ll be unfairly targeted. I suspect they will fall back to community policing similar to the current reporting system.
I’ve gone through my stuff and edited out words and a few sentences that were borderline. It’s better than putting crafty worded disclaimers at the bottom. Keep the facts there, be mindful of what you’re claiming even if you’re successful with your “fix” because you never know how your item is going to be used.
I spent 13 hours to fix my designs wording today and i am not even half done. I do treasure my post and i am making sure they dont get accidentally triggered. Not a easy job tbh but it so vague .
I get its a daunting task, I looked at it initially and thought goodbye charlie brown. Looking at Etsy is a prime example where plain text and pictures don’t stop abuse, its not going to stop people scheming.
The bottom line is as long as there is monetary rewards, there’s going to be people gunning for that carrot.
This message is to clarify our guidelines on using the MakerWorld logo and claims in model and profile descriptions.
MakerWorld Logo:
Using the MakerWorld logo on model and profile pictures to imply official endorsement is strictly prohibited. This is especially important for 3D printer accessory models, where users rely on trusted sources for quality and compatibility.
Model Descriptions:
We welcome accurate and informative descriptions that benefit the community. The use of bold text, special fonts, and capitations can be helpful to highlight key features, but please avoid using them for exaggerated or unsubstantiated claims.
I do have to partially disagree, with a logo we are talking IP → Trademarks.
Under current EU law for example private reproduction of a trademark simply is not seen as an infringement. - If an uploader has no commercial intention (does not sell the files, does not promote the own business, …) and the person printing it also does so for private use/pleasure only (some caveats do exist here!), there simply is nothing a company can do.
Taking up the image, sometimes the fear inducing scream of a legal eagle may be misinterpreted from the sound of a mocking bird bursting with anger.
But make no mistake, one entity crossing that line towards commercial use makes this person/company instant prey and it is up to the eagle/falconer if & when to strike that low value target.
Also, the more people throw around stuff with brands giddily plastered over it, the sooner the law may change or the hosting sites will be picked at…
Including a statement like @Quietman mentioned seems like a good idea to me nonetheless. I will include a sentence like that.
Of course MakerWorld can tell its users what deigns are not welcome, if they didn’t want any designs with Bambu Lab’s logo in/on them that would have to be respected.
Good examples (that smartphone promo is shame special), thanks. I did not think of this and it brings a lot of context to understanding the announcement.
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I am wondering the same. My first estimate would be 20+ people distributed over three shifts just to stay 100% on top of the influx. AI is in fashion with all the young tech companies, if it comes and works as well as with the print failure detection we are in for a rough first ride…
With the provided context by others in this thread I now do get what may be the cause and intention with this.
My understanding sometimes is very literal, sorry. I asked for clarification in regards to the Bambu Lab logo because that is what was mentioned under point 7 in your announcement. Your clarification is on using the MakerWorld logo.
What I do interpret is:
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