Title says it all. Big tree tech has a build plate that’s supposed to allow you to print with PLA and PETG on a room temperature bed with no glue, etc.
Anyone use it that can give some feedback?
I don’t know. When they stop confusing me with self contradicting product listings I might try on of those…
Edit:
In case it isn’t self evident - I was referring to the ‘…at room temperature…’ passage & ‘Zero Heat’ in the heading while specifying 30-50°C & 50-70°C just below that and printed on the plate itself.
Don’t know about other people’s room temps - mine isn’t in that range…
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I always recommend to all my clients to carefully read the small print (and make sure to understand
what it actually means) before signing anything. Small print doesn’t mean a small risk… actually it’s always completely the opposite. In this case, despite the sales pitch, it doesn’t print ABS and TPU… So what’s its usefulness then?
I wanna pipe in here.
Criticize me if you wish, but I’ve been sucked into the “Panda” thing and have purchased the Touch, Revo, Branch, PWR, and that hub thing for the Touch.
I’m done. I’ve had nothing but issues over the last month with the touch, to the point I’ve stopped using it. That makes a couple of other purchases far less useful. Don’t be me.
The plate may be fine, kinda hard to screw up a plate. If BTT is consistant with anything it’s being inconsistant. The quality seems to be all over the place, stop by the FB pages to see, and support can be non-existant at times. Keep that in mind if you have doubts and still want to buy.
The most promising plate I’ve seen to replace multiple plates may be the Carbon Fiber plate from WammBam if it ever ships. Needs heat, but seems to be working with all filaments without any real issue.
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Thanks for the candid feedback. This is helpful. What is it with these Chinese companies who act as throw they can through any ■■■■ against the wall and hope it sticks?
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Looks like you gonna have to wait for quite some time. Everything is apparently “SOLD OUT” no matter which brand of printer one is looking to buy their plate for.
X1C (or anything for Bambu printers) is sold out as well. No info on when and if they’ll resupply.
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Tempting, so very tempting!
…thank you ma’am.
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Zero heat!!!*
*actually the usual temps
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I preorded it. Was supposed to ship last week, now by end of month.
Edit: just shipped today.
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We’re in the same boat my friend… I’m a sucker for upgrades and hype and most of their stuff is in both of those categories. I’ve got 4 Panda Lux light bars (about as bright as the stock lighting), 4 Panda Revos (no complaints heres, I can use my nozzles with the Bambus), 4 Panda Claw extruders (no change in quantity and hopefully will last
longer??), 4 Panda jets (haven’t put them on yet), 2 Panda Branches (haven’t used them yet), 1 Panda Touch (kinda sucks)…
Now I love their non-Bambu stuff. I have the Octopus 1.1 on several printers, the EBB42 and U2C canbus stuff on several printers, the Universal Turbo Cpap on several printers…for some reason its just the Bambu stuff that is questionable.
You’re right on the money about the support too… one of the Cpap kits came with the wiring harness pinned incorrectly. I fixed it but it still wouldn’t work, I think I fried it when I plugged it in originally. I sent them pictures of the incorrectly pinned harness and a picture of a correctly pinned harness on one of the working kits. They wrote back asking for more pictures and a video of me swapping out the bad pcb with the working one… I just returned the kit but it gave me Bambu vibes 
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Something about Chinese support, love pics and make you feel like you can’t be trusted. If the picture is needed to troubleshoot it’s one thing, but it always seems like they don’t believe you. Get’s old.
I gave up on the Touch. I tried, spent 4 hours trying to get the bootloop to stop. Thought it was the board but swapped those (been through this before and happened to have one) no change. Thought it was power. Ran from the PWR, ran from their little 2 port hub from inside the printer, ran off a phone charger. Several levels of cable quality including the cable it came with. No change.
The first thing support asks for is a pic, and a pic of the board. Keep in mind I gave them a detailed rundown of what I had done. Then they tell me to use a different power supply. I was using it with what it’s advertised to plug into. I used it with their devices. I gave up.
it’s a great idea when it works. They did answer me this time, but it was too little too late. I canceled the extruder gear and the toolhead cover. No more. The Revo is the only thing I got that works as it should.
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Me too. At first I was having screen flicker and reboots and one of the firware updates seemed to have fixed that but now every time I wake it up there are all sorts of warnings that it cant connect to the wifi or other nonsense. I really wish Bambu had come out with their own version that worked. Heck, they could have been coming out with all these upgrades.
I believe I can explain this aspect of the culture, having worked alongside many people who behave this way. If your culture does not respect honesty and your business ethics uphold someone who cheats in business as the winner, while viewing the cheated person as the loser, the embodiment of that ethos is that you can’t trust anyone if you yourself are untrustworthy, because you believe everyone is as dishonest as you are. This is not only true for the Chinese, although they are among the worst; one can also observe this in other criminally dominated cultures, such as in major cities or the former Soviet Union.
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No offense, but my experience in the US ain’t that far from what you’ve described… Not that in some other countries things are much better. You could find such “mentalities” almost everywhere, in the Far East, Down Under, South America, Africa, Europe…in large corporations or in SMEs… It is true, however, that in some places (countries) such mentality, as you’ve so accurately described, is manifestly encouraged and even raised to the rang of “top business value” … and there are plenty of such examples among the Far East countries, where such practices have become the daily norm.
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Thanks @Olias
I guess my company has spoiled me. We bend over backwards for customers, only stopping when it’s clear you’re trying to get over on us and have succeeded before. We will troubleshoot and advance replace at the drop of a hat. One of the things we are known for. I should say they are known for because i don’t want to be seen speaking for my workplace. That could end poorly.
I’ve had some good service from overseas. If that’s how they do business fine, I’ll play. I’ll be aggravated but I’ll play. My experience has mostly been US, Canada, UK, China. I don’t want to be racist, not trying to be, but the Chinese support is consistantly the worst, although some US service is abhorrent. Lego, Lego though, is the best.
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Maybe it’s like flashforge, their website is oos on everything but it’s all available on eBay and Amazon.
Isn’t Lego from Denmark? And 25
No, they did a preorder for first run. They shipped today so I would think it’ll open back up within a week or two. Speculation.
And yes, they are in Denmark, but I’ve only delt with the US store.
There is a stark contrast between the cultures you mention and the one I described. In many parts of the US and Europe, people generally work to conceal dishonest acts, while in other cultures, it’s openly celebrated. Growing up in NYC, it was common to hear euphemisms like ‘it fell off the truck’ to describe stolen goods. In that environment, getting away with dishonesty was almost a badge of honor, with people grinning as if the thief had ‘gotten one over on the man.’ However, when I moved to the Midwest at 18, I was shocked to encounter a culture that was genuinely horrified by such behavior. As I got to know more people from Midwestern cities like Detroit, Chicago, and Cleveland, I realized that attitudes toward dishonesty vary significantly across different cultures and in the US at least, the demarcation was largely along urban vs country folk. Within Asian cultures there doesn’t appear to be that same demarcation or for that matter, shame associated with dishonest business practices.
I got one of the CryoGrip Pro build plates a few days ago. So far the only thing I’ve printed on it is some PLA. The PLA sticks to it about like the way PETG sticks to the Textured PEI plate. Very thin extrusions of filament are hard to get off but slightly easer than PETG. Don’t know about durability yet but it seems to be good quality.
One thing I like about it is the surface is textured but it’s a smoother textured surface than the Bambu Textured PEI plate.
Oh, and it did something I hadn’t seen before. After I’d flexed a print free of the surface, I was holding it at an angle and it slid a little bit and then stopped like it had some sort of adhesion to the surface and I was able to tilt the plate pretty far before it continued to slide off.