Automation for A1 (3D print farm)

Thanks for the support! Excited to keep pushing forward!

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This is just plain awesome, well done! Does this impact the overall build volume or is there extra movement in the y axis?

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SwapMod creator has explicitly stated that they are not interested to bring A1 version available. So nobody should do it?

This is not entirely correct.

We developed this principle together with JobOx team.

If we are not allowed to design/tweak/build anything remotely similar than existing designs, what would be left for the tinkerer community?

We are not talking about tinkering here. Nobody would care when someone build it for himself. Theodor is about to take our intellectual property which took years to develop and sell a prodct built on this blueprint.

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Collaboration means sharing. Swapmod and JobOx teams have collaborated and shared their time, skills and effort to develop this system starting from 2022. What I see here is a guy coming up to our table in the restaurant with an empty plate in his hands, grabbing some chips from our plate, smiling and saying “let’s share guys”.

So dear community. When someone in the future will blame BambuLab or other tech company (also us) for register patents - please just refer to this post.

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Yes! I saw this for the mini, and I would love one for my regular A1

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I see it more like a photographer who takes a picture of the Eiffel Tower. Then another photographer comes along, wanting to take their own photo of the same landmark. The first photographer tries to stop them, saying, 'It was my idea to photograph the Eiffel Tower; you stole my idea.

The truth is, the concept isn’t exclusive. Ideas like using levers or gravity or even creating solutions for automation are universal. My project simply builds on these principles to address a different need and bring something new to the community.

From my perspective, I don’t see many other mechanical options besides using a lever to remove the plate and gravity to add a new one.

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I think a more apt analogy would be if someone bought a parcel of land a few blocks from the Eiffel Tower and built a larger version.

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By the way, where is it stated that I want to sell the product? I was actually thinking about selling the software…

By the way, where is it stated that I want to sell the product?

Here.

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LOL, why have you deleted it, it was funny :grin::+1:

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Can I ask where the line is? Is this something that can only be exclusively available for the A1 mini and nobody is allowed to make and share something that does something similar for other printers? Because I really really extremely love your design and ingenuity, but I don’t own an A1 mini. And I have had multiple times that I printed something at home and wanted to start another print while still at work: not possible. Tried knocking the print with the extruder, forget it.

So if there was an A1 version I would jump on it, whether it was designed by you or somebody else. I don’t get the Eiffel tower or restaurant references, it’s more like some car brand put heated seats in and another brand thought: hey, that’s nice, I put some heaters in mine as well. And yes, you can have patents on this kind of stuff, saying: I don’t care if you own a BMW, the only way you can enjoy heated seats is by owning a Cadillac. You’ll break down everywhere and you have to use your turn signals, but at least you have heated seats.

And I get that the A1 is too close to home and potentially the next version for your partners. But my main workhorse is a Dutchy 3D printer. Can I design a system to remotely remove and place buildplates? And if I do, can I share it with other Dutchy users? Could I even sell it?

Or is this exclusively for A1 mini users and no other model/brand may ever enjoy the luxuries of a swapmod equivalent? They just have to suck it up and but an A1 mini?

Another example: I designed a 3D printable version of this fully paper-crafted Catan globe:

I didn’t know of its existence when I came up with the globe idea myself but I of course found it quite early during my design stages. Should that have stopped me from designing it all together? Or shouldn’t I have uploaded the design because somebody else already designed something similar?

So I’m playing devils advocate here, but where is the line? In my daily work I’m designing cargo bikes. if we come up with a big improvement (and we do), sooner or later competitors will copy it onto their cargobikes. They might do it worse (shame on them, lucky for us) or they might do it better. And if they do it better, we have to step up our game to stay ahead.

So I think this A1 version might hit too close to home, but what is the alternative? Blocking any swappable plate on any printer that is not an A1 mini? Even if those designs are built from the ground up and for printers you are not catering to? Because as long as it doesn’t interfere with your market I can only see winners from others expanding on your innovation.

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Yes, in the industry this is called an USP.
Ok, to keep it short, I agree to some of your points and disagree with another. According the line: there are two. The legal line (drawn by these who can afford and finally payed by the customers) which is clearly defined for all and covered by patent law and the decency line which is defined by each individually. I assume we talking about second and lets agree that my personal decency line is maybe not at the same place as yours and surely far away from Theodor’s.

And yes, I would love to see your automation for Dutchy 3D printer. I don’t mind even if you sell it. Thank you for asking in advance.

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Very smart !! Is this idea available for A1-mini ?

Any chance that it will be possible just to run a bed clearing script/g-code?
I have print-object that easy can pushed from bed with the toolhead. And then restart.

You might be interested in visiting this thread.

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Non ci crederai ma stavo proprio lavorando a questa possibilità (legge dell’attrazione?) la mia idea era che una volta finita la stampa e espulso il piatto veniva spinto su un supporto rotante (tramite molla azionata dal ritorno del piatto una volta spinto nell’apposito supporto) che si posizionava di nuovo per poter accogliere il secondo piatto (4 piatti su una superfice ragionevole di una scrivania). Spero questo tuo sistema venga sviluppato e perfezionato per un uso casalingo e poso costoso. Complimenti!

At first I thought you meant A1 mini, and there would be a million copyright issues. But since you’re doing the A1, what will the price be? Also, the A1 seems to be the least popular printer, so could it be rearranged to fix P1S/P1P?

No, there is a completely different motion system on the P1’s, there is no way to make it work with this system.

Very good! Regarding copyright: I see it more like OpenAI created ChatGPT with the Transformer model, and a bunch of other companies started creating their own chat models using that approach. So it might be frustrating for the developer of this method, but I don’t see a 1-to-1 plagiarism here.

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