Bambu' partnership integration with Helio Additive

Bambu’s announcement on LinkedIn:

While most users will welcome this particular partnership, the (overly) enthusiastic users should definitely pay close attention to Helio’s TOS, as these TOS specifically and explicitly grant Helio full access rights to users’ files, for any purposes and uses Helio wishes.
Bear in mind that there’s no available option at this time to use Helio integration offline and local. It’s subscription based, and besides your files it collects and uses your personal data (and financial info).

Helio responded to a direct request for clarification by providing a link to their wiki page that actually doesn’t adequately respond to the above raised issues.

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Integration with Bambu Studio

OrcaSlicer with Helio inside

Adds intelligent thermal simulation and layer optimization directly into your slicing workflow. Use it to improve print quality, reduce failures, and unlock fully autonomous FDM printing.

:arrow_down_small: How to Download

:point_right: Download the latest release (v2.3.0.1‑rc3)

Choose the latest .exe (Windows) or .dmg (macOS) file from the Assets section.

:pushpin: This build includes Helio simulation integration and is maintained by Helio Additive.

Known Limitations

  • For multi-plate setups, only the first plate can be simulated.

  • H2D is fully supported on Helio backend, but Orca doesn’t support it yet — Helio is hoping the community can help make it available.

(Retoric question: Helio hopes the community will help make it available with Orca, but how about what Bambu thinks and does about it?)

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Thanks for sharing this, it would never have hit my radar. I was excited at first to see a software extension to BS, let’s face it, anyone getting into advance features knows this slicer - hell… all slicers - need all the help they can get. I was hoping this would be it, but I am not feeling it. Maybe someone else can educate me.

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I watched their FORMEX trade show video. His opening line - “You don’t need an engineering degree” - yeah, right.

I also pulled down the Beta Orca Slicer version. Took several tries just to get it working and it does not support the printers it says it does. Not going into that, but here’s the question: what exactly is the benefit to non-engineers?

When it finally sliced, this is all I saw: three new analysis tools. For example, “Mean Temp Analysis.” Can someone explain how this is actionable? What would anyone actually do with this data? Apparently there is a desktop application that one must download but that’s not obvious from the Slicer and I couldn’t find a download link. It says it’s launching at the end of this month. They say they’ve been developing this for four years? Is that the best you can do??? So far, I’m underwhelmed. :unamused:

This feels like a case of engineering first, marketing last. They never answered the obvious questions:

  • Who is this for?
  • How do they use it?
  • Why would they want it?
    Here are their claims for which I was unable to find anything on their wiki to back this up:

And in today’s TL;DR world, expecting people to dig through a YouTube explainer is wishful thinking.

Now look at the pricing model.

Helio has clearly tied itself to the Bambu ecosystem - even their wiki is a Bambu Lab clone - but their target user would make more sense if it was aimed at engineers supporting commercial print farms. That’s not the Bambu audience. Bambu’s base just wants click-and-print. This feels more like Prusa or Ender territory - not Bambu Labs.

Summary - I realize this is only BETA but it is really rough!!!

Only time will tell but if their expectation is to find love of a “Techy” product in a “Non-Techy” community like 90% of Bambu Lab customers who just want to click and print, they are in for a rude awakening. I don’t believe that market is where they are looking.

Didn’t he just say in the YouTube video that you don’t need to be an Engineer? :man_shrugging:

It’s kind of like their showing up at a Biker’s trade show selling truck trailer hitches, a total mismatch of audiences.

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There is already a thread on this, here: Helio Simulation

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There’s indeed, but i felt that it needs to be not under software topic as it covers all Bambu printer models, but under X series as it refers specifically to X and H series… and considering that H series isn’t integrated (and no chance of being ever integrated) with OrcaSlicer (given Bambu’s radicalized position on OrcaSlicer), and that only the non firmware upgraded X series are still able to run Orca, opening a specific topic here seems like a good idea.