Just chill bro. Life’s too short
So you’d prefer to see people who do no real work profit off of other people’s hard work? Good to know.
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A car is probably the worst anology.
Most people who drive cars do not repair themselves.
A motox bike yes now you do need to maintain those yourself trackside.
But a printer you can buy and use it till it breaks. A 3d printer similar but you do need more knowledge.
Honestly the way i see it, is anyone who cares is barely better than Stratysys…it is quite obvious that there is little money to be made in 3d printing, no one is getting overly rich. Idk how many people were there at the beginning, but i think yall forget…without people much smarter than you, doing all of the work for free, and releasing it open source and little in the way of licensing restrictions…we wouldnt be where we are today, let that sink in. You wouldnt even have the options you do, without the work of countless incredibly intelligent people dedicating their much more valuable time, energy and resources. So quibling over a tiny slice of a pie is asinine in my opinion. The models i design, i public domain them,someone who is better at modeling, someone who can provide a service or just make a tweak I overlooked or if it doesnt quite fit for their specific application, or hell things i move on from and abandon. Its annoying that all these designers seem to think they are the best at doing this. Fine, do you, its art in some cases, but dang its sad to watch a community that used to be so open to sharing, and was excited to see things and ideas take off, die slowly.
wrong.
I was here before “toy” 3D printers started copying elements from industrial machinery (CNC, etc.). Fun toys, but still toys. Prusa became the best toy, and then progress mostly stalled.
I’ll let you know when I run into them.
Sure, iteration played a role, but we’re also here because of a product line designed to onboard users accustomed to fiddly toys—like the faux grilles on early electric cars to make them feel familiar. If Bambu had gone all-in from the start with completely new software, they likely would have failed—no matter how good that software was. The hardware is already capable of much more advanced software, and STL files and G-code could become legacy formats in no time.
Awesome! I’ll keep doing that for some stuff also.
It’s still free, you know. Or do you just miss the good old days of pirating everything you came across?
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Bambu has had multiple rounds of strategic investments in the millions of dollars while developing this company. They have at least 10 large investors. They did seed funding in 2016, series A, series B…ain’t no “free” work happening here except the model creators.
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That guy keeps up the long standing tradition of creating a brand new account just to tell people it should be ok to steal things. Also, nothing in his post really has anything to do with the topic you posted. Last but not least his MW account has zero models on it, I guess he public domains them on other sites.
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Bahahaha duuudde you just broke down my entire post? I need you to get a grip. I can try to do the same. You default to ad hominem attacks, so that shows who you are but cool beans.
“Havent met anyone smarter?!” This is a troll i get it. But the hubris is hilarious regardless. Yea dude people who understand the physics, material science and computer engineering to make these things function, let alone perform their best. Those first iterations were protoypes, which is something we do in the engineering world to get to the final product. Nobody expected anything but for iteration to improve the quality and speed and it has.
Toy machines? Sure they were haphazardly constructed but we are talking REAL engineers who took up the charge after, statysys patent trolling, doing their best to make 3d printing available to the masses and perpetuating the belief that these printers should be available to everyone.
Yes you “CAN” make money 3d printing, so im not “wrong” (could try refuting a point instead of obnoxiously being pretentious)but its hilarious to watch as gulls fight over the few crumbs available in the race to the bottom. Some few will make a lot, but most will make none. Its my hope people could make money ehrically from this. All i see is petualant children, whining because someone stole their model, not acknowledging that the reason they even get to print in most cases is due to drive by the open source community. Consumer printers wouldnt even be a thing without that. I get it ive been there for a few of these wild wests, its rough out there.
To your last point, no, i dont pirate anything. Hilarious that youre so upset thats your chosen route. I pay for multiple subs and believe in supporting creators. I wasnt even necessarily point a finger at you with my post, but if you feel called out eh? It was a general statement to creators. I dont care about you personally im sick of seeing a community that was so focused on collaboration and love of open source and bringing everyone up(including countless people in developing countries), die slowly.
Nahhh my dude, im just some random pretendgineer. Sick of people messing with my sandbox. I have never advocated for anyone stealing models, but the nailbiting pearl clutching whiners are annoying…if yall can whinge ill hop on that train thanks!
Yea ive only ever uploaded models to thingiverse same name, im a Comp E thats barely decent at 3d design lol…and lately been more focused on printer performance rather than design. However i have been incidentally scrolling aliexpress and seen one of my models being sold, i lauged so hard…likewise ive had someone warn me that a dude was selling something i designed. I liderally dont care. Share and share alike, stand on the shoulder of giants. If smarter people than me and you thought this i formation should be shared? Who am i to diaagree? Yall really do just be ad homineming your whole way through life eh? Granted i didnt address the main point, but thats because its too small picture…im pissed at the bigger picture.
Gosh, I’m dying to know what you had to say to me that was bad enough to get flagged, seems like you were rude in all the answers, so what line did ya cross with me?
I saw it before it got flagged and honestly I’m not sure why it got flagged. It said something like, “Tell you didn’t read my post without telling me you didn’t read my post”.
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Bahahaha yea i may have mentioned footwear eating and that you deliberately misread my post. I was going to take it down anyway as it was a bit uncalled for and then i got distracted, but I honestly have no need to hear how much of a savior bambulabs is. The riding tends to go hard in this community.
2 of my 5 machines are p1s and like them. I never mentioned bambu did anything for free the opposite in fact. And yes I am definitely somewhat perturbed, since joining this community the only things i have seen are whinging about this topic, mostly whinging about not knowing how to print and causing failures, and whinging about whinging, guilty.
Not to mention i was more making a general statement about the state of things and people need to build a bridge and get over it(recognizing of course i was a bit off topic with my generalized statment) and then got ganged up on so…honestly good luck out there my dudes! The echo chamber do be rough!
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I don’t understand the problem. You get points for your model and points for print profiles.
What you are enforcing with your model description is, that someone, who just rearranges parts and uploads a new print profile gets awarded.
But someone, who takes the time to change your model should not get awarded?
No? That’s not what anyone is saying. We’re saying that they aren’t taking time. It’s a two second thing to add a few extra copies or change the scaling. That should not warrant that user getting half of the points. Designers spend weeks making their stuff (excluding some, uh, low quality designs), and people who spend two seconds to change something shouldn’t be rewarded with any points. If they make a genuine contribution or change, then yes, they should be rewarded.
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But thats exactly what the original post from @protoboard was saying.
Scaling and rearranging is allowed. Modifying not.
But in my opinion that’s a problem of Makerworld. You should not get any point for print profiles.
Only the designer should get points. That way they’re incentivized to upload one.
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I sorta disagree - currently the designer gets way more points than profile creator. Designer’s profiles are promoted and sorted first.
I think people who do profiles where designer didn’t add profile should be granted points (or when profile introduces good changes)
And the same time - i think designers should have a say in what profile goes in and can stay and which don’t so that the “point leeches” don’t ruin good thing for everybody with leech profiles.
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@Zammer3D @Johnny_Bit When two members of the cabal disagree it must be settled in the chambers, away from the eyes of the unwashed.
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I agree with this and suggested it, I was just saying that
isn’t cool, at least the designer should get points. I just worded my previous post poorly.
Suggested it all the way back in November:
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I still want to be able to redirect my points on chosen models to those who made the original design after adding the profile.
I can make this decision once when I upload.
I should later be able to say “all future revenue should go to the designer of the model”.
No further ability for me to change my mind.
All print profiles added must actually add something of value to a model. For example
- The early days of the A1 mini
- When the designer has chosen not to provide colour versions of their model ^
^ Not to be confused with adding a minor colour variation to models with many colour variations created by the designer. You add to the community not share your fridge picture choice with the world.
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