Explaining the "Auth System" in laymans terms

PART 4

Link to original analysis below:

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Decompiled Bambu Connect code for your review and assessment:

Link to source:

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@drakko Thank you so much for this indepth analysis over this, I agree with this heavily as someone who lives with spotty internet connectivity but still likes designing radio parts/cases. It’s essential for it to handle moments where the connectivity isn’t there and this development troubles me a lot.

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Seems like you forgot to include some code, so here’s everything: gist[dot]github[dot]com/user3596053617/427f155e4f5f1cba125b3c34db76d1d3

404 ? not available anymore ?

Check the source links again. Both are fully functional right now.

And this shi_ is why I am since yesterday selling all 7 bambu x1c and 10 p1s. Will be buying 4x Anycubic Kobra S1, 4x Creality K2 Plus Combo, 3x Creality K1 Max, and 5x Adventurer 5M Pro.

After extensive tests, these are at least a bit better than bambu without all of this shenanigans.

“Security” is always excuse to lock costumers and squeeze as much money as possible. it already spies on you and all of yours models and printing.

It was ok-ish when there were not so much alternatives, but bambu is now already lagging behind some of the others.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

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Really like this explanation!

I do not like someone being a bouncer of my house with out me the one controlling that bouncer. At some point Bambu could dictate this brand filament is no longer allowed in the house. Might not happen today, however setting a foundation for a different CEO to take advantage of the lack of foresight is my concern.

Really hope Bambu takes all the criticism as constructive feedback and changes their approach.

Bambu please just continue to work on what you do well is making good printers with a great experience and allowing the people the control over their purchased product.

It is a red flag for me when companies feel like they need to think on behalf of myself. Please just give the tools to i can apply them as needed instead of a company assuming they know what i need. Provide me the lock, but let me decide how i want to use it.

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Bambu has made great products, but this is unacceptable. I was already uncomfortable with everything being proprietary, but since they didn’t hike up the prices of replacement parts or software, it was tolerable. I’ve recommended their printers to several of my engineering major friends, who bought them based on my recommendation. To say I’m upset is an understatement.

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Simply put Bambu Lab want to be the gatekeeper to all the printer features you bought, and you the actual owner and user of the printer must agree to whatever Bambi demands to accesses it. With no guarantee or limit to what demand may be changed or added at a later change.

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LAN mode is relying on your locked gate enough that you have no issues leaving your door unlocked. The bouncer is still at your front door to block entry, even to your dog who you let run around the yard.

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Same page. They effectively incinerated the goodwill they had earned from me with this one move. I’m not naive, I expected this sort of thing eventually, but I thought it would be a much more gradual process.

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Yeah but if the old bouncer is kept - he was playing nice with Orca. New bouncer comes with new firmware. And if Printer is in LAN mode it should not be possible for him to come - When using alternative transport method Orca instead of Bambu slicer, or handy app. I hope, but what I read it seems he just might somehow - that is then really a security problem to be addressed.

:exploding_head:Right when we thought things were getting better with offline fw updates. I’m selling this thing asap at half price on facebook marketplace. This is so gross.

Class action incoming.

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I am not sure I understood the whole story, but in the end if, following a firmware upgrade, I cannot run the slicer I want (Orca!), setting up the printer the way I want (bypass the Cloud!), I will sell my P1S.

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Thanks, man. I’ve been trying to figure out why so many people are up in arms about this and honestly the people who are most against it are just as bad about explaining why as Bambu is. I’ve never used Orca but that’s because all my printers right now are Bambu, but good to know for the future. Personally I hope the sheer outrage convinces them to walk back the measures and try again with something that actually fixes the problem rather than appearances of fixing the problem.

If there are different API keys for through-the-cloud traffic and local traffic, I don’t see a problem. I think while motivation of improved security sounds good, intention is to replace Network Plugin and it’s API by application and closing API for communicating with printer. That can easily be a first step for making BambuStudio only application that can be used for printing and then possibly allow some features only as a paid options (subscription based).

If they do this in the name of security, next time they can protect us from problems caused by filaments without RFID chips (or after date of expiration)

Thank you big time for that, @drakko!

Looks like I’m back in opposition to the new software/firmware path. It takes away functionality even if I don’t use it right now, but I will if Bambu continues with this.

I’ve never liked my files going through Bambu’s cloud. Besides the opportunity it provides Bambu to monitor what people are printing, it’s a link to fail in a convoluted chain. I just want a printer on my network that I can talk to without having to send files to Bambu’s computers. But their cloud is probably how they know to award print points too.

If Bambu wants to implement this on new printers going forward where people who buy in know what they are getting, that’s fine. But forcing existing owners into this is wrong.

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Another voice in opposition.

It’s definitely making the Prusa Core one look very tempting, even at a significant price increase compared to the P1S.

I’m not updating, My P1S is in lan mode now and I’m in the progress of blocking it from phoning home in my router.

If this hadn’t happened, I would have still been using the easy route - i.e. the cloud.
Bambu you just f’d up big time again.

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My take on the new authorization policy…

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