Feature Request: Block

Any chance we can get a block feature that actually blocks users from accessing our content?

I had a user upload multiple profiles to my models, and they had edited various parts, which violated the standard digital license they were released under.

I asked them politely to remove them, to which they responded back with vitriol and indicated they were continue the behaviour.

I blocked them, and ever since, they have still been able to harass me via means of profiles, both edited and otherwise, to which I have had absolutely no help from support whatsoever.

I’m now having to spend hours each day vetting and reporting potentially harmful/edited profiles, which is completely unsustainable.

Which in turn, has had a massive negative effect on my desire to create and release new models.

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I would be more sympathetic to your wish to have your license followed, if you also followed others’ licensing rules and your store wasn’t full of marvel and Nintendo.

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lol OP, you should cash out all your points every week

If nintendo ever runs a big IP campaign on makerworld the way Labubu, Hasbro, etc did, your entire library is getting nuked

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Thats between me and the license holder, which is a separate issue, right?

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Sounds like A: You need to read up on Copyright Law, and see how slippery the slope is. Or B: get sued for Copyright Infringement and lose your a$$ since you prefer to remain ignorant.

You are wading in shark infested waters. Copyright Law is very clear and not something to be trifled with. But you are right, that is between you and the Copyright Holder. Do you have a hallway of lawyers like they do? And they have the weight of the Copyright Office of the Government behind them.

If they slap you, it will definitely hurt. But hey, we won’t feel a thing….

You’re right about the Block Feature. Since BL Forums doesn’t currently have one, I’ll just put you on my ignore list as a Plagiarizing fool to avoid. Job done.

Nice post for your first.

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Sorry, but you are being ignored. I muted you.

I bet they wish they could block you as well?

You want protection from people violating your licence. How can you possibly talk about protection for yourself without talking about protection for others?

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I completely understand the desire to block certain users on MakerWorld, but we need to put this into perspective.

You can already block users, which stops them from leaving bad reviews or writing comments. This takes most of the burden off your shoulders. The ability to prevent people from creating profiles is a long-requested feature. However, MakerWorld has no intention of implementing it.

So, let’s provide some more context on this topic: On every page for your 3D models, you’ve stated the following:


IMPORTANT NOTICE DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE PROFILE BY THE USER ā€œTWIGā€ AS IT MAY DAMAGE YOUR MACHINE.


Well, let’s just check that out:

Okay, I’ll keep this short instead of writing a novel, and I’ve opened several profiles from this users: I couldn’t find any indication that the profiles damage the printer.

Please, if you have any evidence, show it to us. Thank you.


By the way, it’s a nice aside that you yourself noticed that the IP issue is already well beyond a gray area: ā€œPlease note, any and all risk of reselling physical prints of these models with regard to the original IP, is entirely yours.ā€

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Publicly insulting this user on TikTok is, to put it mildly, inappropriate. It could also result in a ban if you incite your community against a specific user.

I’m not here to judge, but I’m telling you, you’re playing with fire.

You have even described in detail how people in your community should mass-report the user for alleged harassment.


Source:


Edit: …and just to give you an idea of the impact your videos are having - people are already sharing this on Discord servers and report it en masse.

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Gross

I think it’s especially gross considering how OP doesn’t give two damns about how they are ripping nintendo and marvel’s IPs, profiting off them, encouraging others to sell their work too, then turning around and crying because someone made some print profiles?! And who cares?! Like what does it take away from OP that this person made some print profiles?

And now OP is stirring up a mob to go attack this person?

this just looks so greasy. Like there’s no indication that this other person really did anything wrong at all. It all seems like OP is just made because someone else dared to upload print profiles on their models.

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He’s right now reading every post in this thread right now. I’m curious whether he can still turn the tables and present the evidence.

At the moment, it appears - partly due to a lack of evidence - that he is the one engaging in harassment and violating BambuLab’s rules. As I said, at the moment.

It’s as if the offender is portraying himself as the victim and calling on his community to harass others, but presenting it as a righteous act.

Like I said, there might be more to the story, but right now things aren’t looking good for OP.

Seriously. I’ve been looking at that user’s print profile too. Those print profiles are setup to be print by object, consolidating things into one plate. It’s a very valid approach for those that’d want to do it. Is it not?!

I loaded one of the print profiles up directly in Bambu studio. I see no issues. Any modded settings, there’s nothing crazy going on. This is just like so straight forward, I just, it seems like OP is having an issue because they can’t control everything.

I’m feeling like OP is playing this up a bit too.

Do you have recipes? Like chat transcripts that show them being nasty to you?

How are they harassing you via print profiles? Because all the profiles I’ve seen, I don’t see how they could rise to the level of harassment.

This is the whole description on this one. Can you point to the body of text where the actual harassment is?

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@MakerWorld @SupportAssistant

I think you should look into the issue of harassment and investigate it thoroughly, since it’s already having widespread effects, even extending to TikTok and Discord. That really is an exceptional case that happens only very rarely.

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I’m confused. I thought that’s what MakerWorld was all about– free models. I’m serious, I don’t know how it works. I thought you earned rewards based on how popular your model was as evidenced by the number of downloads.

Free models that don’t infringe on others’ trademarks, copyrights, and licenses. That’s the whole crux.

Nothing wrong with free models. It’s when they infringe others that things go wrong. Either one user trying to skim points off another, or the OP’s infringement of trademarks/copyrights of various companies.

It’s tempting to side with the human, but as Mitt Romney reminded us some years ago, ā€œCompanies are people too, my friend.ā€

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With topics like this, the big question is always: Are they really ā€˜free’? As a user, all you have to do is sign up to MakerWorld and click ā€˜Download’, but what about the bigger picture?

The models were uploaded under the Standard Digital Licence, which does not allow for remixes or any other use. However, I’m almost certain that this isn’t valid because the IP (Nintendo) and concept of the 3D model, namely the ā€˜clicky PokĆ© Ball’, already existed beforehand.


Furthermore, as the creator, you earn a significant amount of real money from uploading it as an exclusive model. You also gain material value in the form of hardware. In this case, I estimate that we’re talking about several thousand dollars, including the donation account. There’s nothing wrong with that - quite the contrary. I’ll get right to the point:

It’s just not ā€˜free’ in the traditional sense anymore. If someone supporting the MakerWorld ecosystem and getting paid, everything’s fine - that’s what most of us do. The only tricky part is trying to convince the IP holder that it was, after all, ā€˜free’. He’ll say, ā€œWait a minute, you made a thousand dollars off that - that’s the exact opposite of ā€˜free’ in the true sense of the word.ā€


That’s why it’s also extremely complicated from a legal standpoint. The line between fan art and commercial art is crossed if you make a lot of money from it.

Like I said, I’m not in a position to judge, nor am I a lawyer, but either way, I see this as playing with fire. This will probably go on until Nintendo finds out, just like what happened with Lego (the name and logo, not the bricks) at MakerWorld - and then it’ll be gone. On the other hand, I assume it’s worth it if we roughly add it all up - a few thousand dollars in hardware value and donations.

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Even if it wasn’t exclusive, by way of the rewards system, one is still profiting. Being enriched doesn’t always entail cash specifically to be exchanging hands.

OP is directly profiting off of Nintendo and Marvel’s IPs though.

I mean, considering it’s Nintendo and Marvel’s IPs, wouldn’t that disqualify it from the exclusive program too?

It’s funny too, I was showing this topic to my father, and he went to OPs page. He commented pretty quickly how nothing there is really that original, and started clicking on related models by other designs that are basically the same types of models. Pokemon balls dressed up in different themes…

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By the way, I printed one of Twig’s profiles. It’s almost finished. And guess what?

Pikachu shocked face! It didn’t break my printer.

Very convenient to have everything included on one plate like that. I don’t normally do print by object as such, but it certainly made it easy to just throw it at my printer. I can appreciate why people would want to do this.

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I’m no expert, but actually it shouldn’t be included in either the Exclusive Program nor the Standard Licence - both are invalid.

This means that anyone can use it, kind of.

The only option is probably to leave it unlicensed, but unfortunately that isn’t possible with MakerWorld. I initially considered the public domain, but that wouldn’t work either because you can’t simply make someone else’s intellectual property public domain. Which basically boils down to this: No matter what license is used, it’s always invalid in a case like this.


So, to reiterate, anyone could upload these PokĆ© Balls. Morally speaking, that doesn’t make it any better - you can’t protect something that doesn’t belong to you.


You’ve been around long enough yourself: You know the topics that keep coming up whenever companies storm into MakerWorld and ban all sorts of things.

Lego, Mattel, Labubu, Kia, Subaro, Hyundai, … the list is long. Even the Benchy was affected at one point.

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