FTS before I take it out any view

Hi

I have read through all the FTS posts I can find so one last view before i take it out

H2D with 4 ams pro 2 though 2 4:1 splitters - all good, no errors, everything happy

Added FTS , leaving all tube lengths i had before the same and just added two to the FTS output as per instructions

immediate moans about tension etc, brought new BL tubes and shortened to compensate for the FTS but still error, tried taking out the 4:1 as a test still error, removed FTS no errors.

it feels like a cumulative issue, the system is sensitive and the 4:1, extra tubes and FTS seem to just push it over the edge of what it will accept

any final ideas before just take it out as a write off?

Just from my experience, it’s likely the filament path. You have a bend or something it doesn’t like. I have 3 AMS 2P’s and 1 HT going to my H2C without issues through the FTS.

I guess the experience with the H2D could be different? I have not installed an FTS on my H2D, I typically don’t use more than 2 materials with it.

Did you install the PTFE guides on each AMS?

This is useful as I thought my tube runs were long but you have it longer so thanks

Yep, got them and no sharp bends and all official BL pfte tubing

If I change nothing at all and just pull out the tubes and put them direct no issues but once it goes through the FTS error comes back

Yes. The FTS adds additional resistance to the filament feed path. That’s why Bambu released the PTFE tube guides and is very prescriptive about how the PTFE needs to be set up when using the FTS.

Two questions - are you using OEM Bambu PTFE?

Have you removed the wipers from inside your 4into1 connectors?

So I don’t use the guides or OEM PTFE tubes. Maybe that is why i’ve had good luck. I printed the guides but never installed them; I just added small pieces to connect the FTS. I also still have the wipers in my 4-1’s. I have also purchased PTFE from Yoopai on Amazon, same 2.5 mm ID. It was cheap and has never given me problems. :man_shrugging:

not all ptfe tubes are created equal, some have far greater resistance than others, also slight deviations in id and non-perpendicular cuts can induce higher resistance. and then there is wear…

True, and my internal AMS tubes are all OEM, the replacements I put in them on my next maintenance will be OEM too. Just the external tubes are not.

Hi, I converted my H2D to an H2C. I’ve been using the FTS since it first came out. My setup involves two AMS-HT units and two AMS Pro v2 units connected via two 4-to-1 adapters; I use the AMS guides and Bambu PTFE tubes. I designed the mount for the FTS switch to ensure the best possible connection for my AMS units, whether they are positioned on top of the printer or to its right. My son has a similar setup with three AMS Pro and two AMS HT units on the right side of the printer. We haven’t had any issues with the FTS, though it is important that the PTFE tubes are cut carefully and straight. It is also good to deburr the respective PTFE inputs inside. The entire filament path should be checked for hard transitions by means of a piece of filament after assembly. At the beginning we sometimes had a too high fraction false message but the filament path seems to grind in a little over time and the errors then no longer occur. Greetings Olaf

I’d check the whole filament path for tight bends or extra friction before giving up on the FTS. With four AMS units, the added tubing and splitters may be enough to push the system past its limit.

When I look at the tubes going into the AMS’s on top, they seem to have quite a sharp bend before they go into the PTFE guides.

The additional couplers in those tubes are adding resistance to the path. Try to use full tubes from one connection to the other.

I can’t see the path from the FTS to the printer itself. There might be sharp bends in there too.

Hopefully you get it solved.

Hi, followed guide on lengths, printed the BL guides and using official BL ptfe tube

And yes I suspected the little rubber things so they are gone too

Hi, the de-bur thing, what does that mean? Any guidance on that?

One more point, I have no issues with print quality. I’d go as far to say I don’t see how it could be better but I always get the error so it’s not enough to change the print but it’s just enough to throw an error

Just re-created the whole thing. Moved the FTS to a side not back location made the ptfe no longer than 700mm and made sure all tubes were not under too much bend or anything

immediate error again with the FTS, logging a ticket then returning it if they don’t have any great ideas

Have you ever printed with the FTS?

Where is the end of the filament when the error occurs?

You might have a faulty FTS.

it prints it just errors and occasionally gives me an overload warning then stops but thats rare

When you stand there and it loads the filament it moves fast and when it hits the FTS you get a semi kind of grinding noise like its rubbing on something then when it comes out the other side its moving at about 1/4 of the speed it was before it went into the FTS

You can audibly hear it trying but getting resistance in the FTS

I’d suggest posting some pictures of your setup - just in case there’s something we notice there.