Get Real about Bambu Labs

Welcome to the forum! I think a lot of people feel the same way. I’m a few years from retirement and I would love to get a small van and stock it with some Bambu parts, some Prusa parts and a LOT of the common parts that work on most of the other companies (Elegoo, Creality etc). Then just make house calls. At this point there would be almost no competition.

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Definitely no competition. Might even get a few years before there’s a hint of another similar business.

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4+ years MK3S
1+ year MK4
8 days X1C; then I returned the printer and got a refund

Try to print 0,05 (Prusa can do it) or at least 0,08 (Bambu).
Bambu? Poorest quality I have ever experienced.

P.S.
Don’t judge people when you don’t know who they are.

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The A1, at a third of the cost, creates prints that are just as good if not better than the MK4. Not only that, but the A1 can print in four colors while the MK4 is tied to one filament at a time. The X1-C is in a league above.

You may be happy with your Prusas but I find it highly uncomfortable dealing with a company that comes off as rather cultish, with an overt narcissist at its head. It makes it rather suspect, those who insist that Bambu Lab printers are somehow inferior to anything that Prusa has to offer. It is not just Bambu, Anycubic and Creality also seem to be developing technology beyond what Prusa is offering.

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Wait, is this the meme thread?

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That’s why …Prusa - don’t get me wrong - I have (3) X1C units and for the most part I like them, but they annoy me a lot too. More than the Prusa MK3s machines ever did. I still have (4) operational MK3s machines which are true workhorses, so easy to work on - going on 6 years and 1000 of hours - with normal maintenance. I have mixed feelings about the X1c and truly am concerned if something more serious comes up. Its always good to express your experiences - I only hope someone at Bambu listens.

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Still coming back to post pretty frequently on a Bambu Labs forum for someone who doesn’t own a Bambu Labs printer. I notice you suggested upthread that perhaps some of the people defending Bambu might be Bambu employees… That’s starting to look an awful lot like projection to me, considering how hard you’re on here stanning Prusa. Just saying…

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That is not the issue. It is someone pretending to be smart, (ie claiming to have studied physics) as a way of excusing their inadequacies in another area. Is not the whole point of the OP that of someone frustrated by their own inadequacies and blaming others for it?

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I can judge you by the things you claim.

In an earlier post you claimed that the X1-C runs at 80dB.

I set up my sound level meter, one meter in front of my X1-C and ran a print. The meter read from 26-30 dB throughout the print except for the vibration test on startup that ran in the mid 40’s dB range for about 2 seconds. My A1 is quieter.

Your claims of 0,05 and 0,08 are unitless and without reference and thus useless, as if they are just random numbers thrown to the wind.

Whatever you are, the claims you make do not square with reality.

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Go search the forum. Then you will see the miriad of problems with Bambu Lab printers, especially quality issues.

Everybody knows what these numbers mean. Especially people who actually work with 3D printers.

I don’t have strong feelings on that, the belt works fine and should be cheaper than a motor to replace. If there are two motors, what happens if one fails and the other keeps working? Couldn’t that cause additional damage? (I haven’t looked closely at how that is rigged so legit question, not disagreeing)

Independent motors can manage to calibrate the bed better.
One belt? Cheap solution resulting with too many problems. IMHO, the printer can’t calibrate slight diferences on Z axis (in various parts of the bed) when there is only one common belt for all of the vertical helixes.
Four motors would do the job perfectly. The fifth one should be in the center… but this should lead to a tricky and more expensive solution. Just my opinion.

Definitely sounds like a better technical solution but I’m not sure if it would be considered a better from an engineering standpoint, as it would be more expensive with more points of failure. What kind of difference in print quality would there be?

I know this is sacrilegious but the P1/X1’s seem to already be extremely accurate compared to anything else in the price range… would people even notice?

Would the gains be worth the extra expense to do the whole series, or would it only benefit a subset of customers? (Well, it would benefit everyone but I’m not sure I would notice lol)

I could see something like that with a slightly taller profile as a P1Pro / X1 Pro series, marketed to engineers and farmers with a slightly different firmware to appease all of the most vocal critics raging right now about the changes. Disable all the cloud features they don’t want anyhow but use the new connect app as a limited conduit to view, stop and start jobs. Cheaper than the E series, with more of a “farm” focus…

They could do that with existing hardware as well, I suppose. Give them a choice to “Go Pro” by forking the firmware instead of taking something away from them, they would be giving them exactly what they have been asking for.

I set up my sound level meter, one meter in front of my X1-C and ran a print. The meter read from 26-30 dB throughout the print except for the vibration test on startup that ran in the mid 40’s dB range for about 2 seconds.

Sorry, but I’d suggest you set up a different sound meter because that is laughable. Basically you’re saying your X1C is the same sound level as rustling leaves to a whisper. My X1 easily hit 60db with everything closed. Unless of course you’re saying it was 30-40db above ambient background noise, that I could believe.

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I don’t think Bambu printers have poor quality, but getting a working one can be like winning the lottery for some people. I just stick to my A1 mini because of how cheap it is to fix, and there is a lot more that could go wrong with the X1 or other expert printers. If there is something Bambu really needs to fix, it is their customer support.

This is what I use, I get it from Amazon. Works great.

eSUN 1.75mm, Cleaning Filament, Prevent Nozzles and Extruders Clogging, 100g Spool 3D Printing Filament for 3D Printers, Natural

I suspect shop class didn’t use 3 mm black screws:))