Gift Cards are SOLD OUT?

Since you asked nicely, I was just browsing your profile to find a model to boost because it is Christmas after all and I found this:

which looks suspiciously similar to this:

hmm… dimensions and triangle count are identical for both pieces, how strange that they appear the same as you say:
“After a few iterations and testing some already made models from other creations (thank you), i came to the conclusion that i needed to start one design myself and this is the result.”

So you came up with your own design that happens to be identical to mine right down to a single triangle in the mesh? ha!

A few points on this:

  • If you wanted to strip off the card from my model leaving just the eyes and then tweak the print settings, that’s fine, you could have uploaded as a new profile.
  • You could have even uploaded it yourself as a remix if you genuinely changed the model (but you didn’t)
  • What you’ve actually done is uploaded it as a brand new model which is in breach of the license I had when I uploaded my version. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial as you have not acknoweldged where you got the model from.

Furthermore, you’ve even uploaded it as a Maker World Exclusive model which is in breach of the MW Exclusive license on my model:

“You shall not share, sub-license, sell, rent, host, transfer, or distribute in any way the digital or 3D printed versions of this object, nor any other derivative work of this object in its digital or physical format (including - but not limited to - remixes of this object, and hosting on other digital platforms). The objects may not be used without permission in any way whatsoever in which you charge money, or collect fees.”

That’s not cool dude and I don’t think MW will take kindly to copyright infringement.

I haven’t reported you because I think you should have the opportunity to correct this issue by removing your model and we’ll leave it at that.
(and yes, remove is the only option. The licesnse on Exclusive MW models doesn’t allow remixes as per above.)

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Oh wow… that model came from “yours” alright. But not as a copy. I have standards as as such, i don’t “rip” other models and when i do upload them here, i give the correct attribution as you can see for a couple of models. I even go and link it to the person in the description.

If you feel like reporting it, please be my guest. I have the fusion project with the dimensions and all the steps that i could share with makerworld. Don’t want to make this a drama because if you search enough, there are people that indeed “renamed” your files and even uploaded them as they were.

Look, i get it. They are cool but in the end i tried and make them as i wanted and of course, i got inspiration from yours. If we can’t be inspired, then what are we doing here right?

Again, i am not that kind of guy and have been fighting with some people exactly over that. It doesn’t make a difference and if it’s such a great deal and “competition” to your side, i’ll gladly remove it because sincerely, i can’t stand accusations like those and they were made for my daughter so that she could use it as stickers with double sided tape.

You have some great models and should not consider mine to be stealing from yours. Just look at the downloads count. Have a great one :ok_hand:

To be fair, any model that had a normal license before they were changed, could be used. Just so you make note. And we’ll leave it at that, as you kindly suggested :wink:

Edit: took a look at the mesh and i can’t see the exact same as you did. Write me a message if you feel like it. Again, i don’t have problems with removing them if it hurts you that much. They served the purpose and i didn’t get any big rewards from it :slightly_smiling_face:
Changed the model to private until i can get an answer from your side from the message i sent you. :slightly_smiling_face:

yellow is my step file, white is your 3mf



Same with the black parts, identical dimensions, volume and number of triangles, even the object name is the same! Anyone can check this themselves by downloading both 3mfs.

I genuinely don’t have issue with you uploading it again (even if techinically that’s in breach of the licesnse) but I think it’s not cool to say you were inspired by another model, not mention what model that is, and then just upload an exact copy of it.

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I dont want to be a jerk or anything… but even if you have the cad files… its pretty easy to redo a cad file from a stl… i can even take your STL put it in solidworks and reverse engineer it in 1 click of a button… it will add solid to it and do all the functions by itself, also you can just redraw on top of the design and copy it, its not because you have the 3d file on fusion or solidworks that will make it yours, specially if the guy did create the file before you actually did :stuck_out_tongue:

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Look, since you didn’t responded to my message, i’ll write it here.
I already moved it to private until i worked it out with you. Didn’t work. I am not supposed to link to every “inspiration” model i get. Did you linked the original over on printables when you only added the spring bit to that model? At the time i compared yours, probably, and the one on printables, released 1 month before yours. The same design, the same measures, except the spring part. It’s even parametric in scad. And that spring part was the one i was not happy with because it was too flimsy. After a few minutes my daughter had already broke it. So i opened fusion, did a “redraw” over yours and the one on printables and went from there.

I could stay quiet but i didn’t. I even moved it to private before i messaged you. I don’t care if i loose the 94 downloads it had (wow so much). I upload what i create for fun, in this case, a very similar model that served his purpose and that was it.

If it makes you happy, keep it. You sure have more attention than me and that is not what i am searching. Have a great one

People don’t get that part. I can pick a 2d model, redraw over it, same dimensions, same things and export it. But again, he has a great model that i also used in one of my pictures and i loved it. Not trying to be a jerk at all. I am a cool guy. Removed it and that’s it and it makes everyone happy :blush:

all good I was just giving my 2 cents on that :stuck_out_tongue: but yeah I get your point but you cannot still redraw on someones models unless you put it back as a remix if the license is ok with that :slight_smile:

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Already stated twice. Corrected already.
As i said, i am a cool guy, a dad that likes to make his kids smile and thats it. If i were “that” kind of guy, i had several printers from bambu already because it really is easy to “design” over other designs.

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Look, since you didn’t responded to my message, i’ll write it here.
I already moved it to private until i worked it out with you. Didn’t work.

Your private message asked me to provide proof, I replied to your message here which also asked me to respond, with proof. You’re now saying your attempt to resolve didn’t work? ok… so proof is only acceptable via DM rather than a public domain such as here?

Did you linked the original over on printables when you only added the spring bit to that model? At the time i compared yours, probably, and the one on printables, released 1 month before yours. The same design, the same measures, except the spring part. It’s even parametric in scad.

Please provide a link to the printables model I apparently ripped off, I’d be interested to see it. I just looked, I don’t see any there similar to mine. There are a few moveable ones, but none using the same or similar mechanism to the one I used.
Closest I see is this one Movable Googly Eyes by PointNemo | Download free STL model | Printables.com

Similarities are:

  • both approximatetly 30mm radius ( :astonished:), although different size from the 3rd decimal place (unlike yours which was identical to 4 decimal places

Differences are:

  • diffrent thickness of both parts
  • different radius of black part
  • different fillet
  • different spring mechanism
  • 3 parts vs 2 parts in my model
  • Completely different number of triangles

Other than that, yes, a copy :roll_eyes:

My moving eyes are version 2 based on my non moveable version here

The moveable version was inspired by another model I modeled* in TinkerCAD which uses a similar spiral spring. I could even show the exact SVG of a spiral from a well known website which I imported to extrude into this spring if you wanted to check the dimensions of that too!
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*for the record this design is based on a commerical toy, although that uses a completely different spring which I tried and failed to recreate in a 3d printed version so came up with my own solution using a spiral.

My point is, I have proof and a clear evolution of all my models so please don’t try an accuse me of taking others designs.

Anyway, seems you want to leave it there and I’m happy to leave it. If you however change your mind, please first provide some step files or other proof of your original design.

So, gift cards are missing, albeit not really as MakerWorld failed to tell people it took them offline for “reasons”, difficult to tell from the last few hours of messages.

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Are you not happy yet? I stated already that i removed it, not because of what you said, but because i have principles. That’s it. If you decide to report said model still, then i’ll gladly hand over not the step files but the f3d (fusion) file to makerworld. I have no interest in ripping anybody’s model.

It’s done, be happy :slightly_smiling_face:. Merry Christmas to you and happy hunt. Check you small presents model too since it’s being ripped off also here in makerworld and on printables, just changing a chamfer. Maybe you can also find that it has the same meshes and polygon count, who knows. Just telling you this because i really liked the simplicity of that model and how you approached it, but didn’t like the execution and the other guy improved it over your design making it better when printing. I am glad i didn’t upload my own model based on yours or i would also get “punished” by 4 decimal places :wink:

Now on with the topic. Anything more, send a ticket to makerworld about it or in any doubt, messages are also open because i am always open to discussion about what gives me passion. And creating is what moves me. I am not a “dumping model” factory, just a small guy creating stupid stuff.

dude…

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Don’t worry. I am not mad for removing it. It was my choice. Again, no problems at all and yours were there before mine so it’s all ok. I just hope that you also don’t mind that i used your presents in a picture of my model. I thought it was so good that it stand out and forgot to remove them before taking the pictures. If it bothers you, i can take new pictures also. Everything is fine :ok_hand:

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@MalcTheOracle , don’t feel like I missed much. lol

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This is about gift cards, not @MalcTheOracle :rofl:

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I am the only other subject this should deteriorate into.

:stuck_out_tongue:

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You are the real gift card that we can’t redeem :grin:

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All my conversations go this way, and it leads to some rather confusing times. Probably why my haircut is so weird today. It started out all cut it short here, leave some length there, then went on about Malc the Oracle and I’m not sure the hairdresser knew what to do with that other than lob an ear off.

I said Malc… MALC… not Vincent. Geez.

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arthur-shelby-peaky-blinders

:sweat_smile:

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Now it’s not sold out. but completely gone!!