I see the H2D is not for me. I maybe wait until a bigger P1 successor appears and use the QIDI Plus 4 (that I am going to adopt) and P1S meanwhile. But maybe Bontech INDX will also be funded and brought to life. This is a much more interesting approach to me.
H2D might be for Pro’s only, who I am not.
2 Likes
That bondtech looks amazing. Zero waste is where its at. Kind of a no brainer at this point. Unless you want to sell a ton of filament. Purging will bring you more money than the printer itself. Im glad to see so many companies looking out for the users and the environment
I think it is good different companies go different ways. So we as customers have the choice. As well Core-XY broadly come to the market with even cheaper offers than from BBL. It is good for customers, some release their software as open source, some restrict it even more. The customer is going to decide if they like to have everything in the cloud and let the producer restrict the usage of the products.
1 Like
The only thing that is really tempting me is an effective filter system. But would have to be proved by measurement gas and particles.
AMS HT is X1 AMS? This one?
Bambu Lab AMS – Automatisches Materialsystem…_gaNzk3Mzg2OTg2LjE3NDI3MjI4Mzk._ga_WRST5SL6B3MTc0MjcyMjgzOS4xLjAuMTc0MjcyMjgzOS4wLjAuMA…
Can a laser seal prints to be waterproof? Foodgrade even?
I have changed my mind also, Im starting to believe this may be a BL version of the Prusa XL, which is basicaly for engeniers and professionals, which is a bummer, as the world was just waiting for a big large scale BL printer, but the more they disclose the more this seems to be a very expensive printer.
We will find out in a few days, but im loosing hope and will most likely put my order on the K2 plus this week. hope im wrong now 
they have already said its gonna be prosumer, but that don’t mean they not will make a p1s version of the H2D very soon.
I would not need a H2D version of P1, but maybe only some features transfered down to P1 platform - bigger build plate, still single nozzle, maybe the servos
and higher speed plus a champer heater.
But that might be more the X-series than P-series at the end.
All the camera stuff is useless for me, in dual nozzle I do not see much of a benefit for me, for laser I would invest in a separate appliance.
1 Like
Maybe they may not introduce just one printer. There may be different models besides H2D. I hope so.
The H2D is the start of a new printer generation. I am sure of that. They are going to make cheaper versions of that printer. But they wont make a bigger build plate. There stil is the option to make a version with only one nozzle. That could lead to a biger build volume of 350 x 320 x 325.
As far as i read the specs of the H2D, i can only use a max build volume of 325 x 320 x 325.
They also could go the same way as with what they did with there current series of printers. Strip the printer of the encolsure. That would also reduce the price.
I am not so sure about the real build volume i can use with the H2D, because i only understand the 1 nozzle buld volume and the build volume if i use 2 nozzels. What does the last “350 x 320 x 325” tell us? Only how big the build plate is?
Could someone explan that to a noob like i am?
They already leaked a base h2d with upgrade kits available, after launch. they talked specifics about the laser there and exhaust would not be build in , like in the combo.
and yea im also talking about larger print bed, dual nozzle and such and not all the features.
they also gonna show us the AMS today ithink.
My take is that if you load both heads with the same filament then the print can use the entire plate size. If you use one head, or two different filaments, then the bed size is reduced.
Should find out in the next couple days!
2 Likes
Ahh! Thank you very much, you could be right! If the same filament is in both nozzels, it could be possible to do prints on the whole build plate. Same with the stripped down future version that could have only one nozzle.
2 Likes
However, interestingly enough, it does have 5 GHz WiFi judging from the specs, that should be pretty decent performing, and actually be a first IoT device ever for me that actually supports 5 GHz WiFi o_o
Great on paper, however, from my experience even the “same” two filaments are never the same (PLA Basic While filament may vary in color and opacity (density), for example), therefore, if two “same” materials from different nozzles would be treated as the same, and used interchangably, that may inadvertendly result in some wacky results 
Given the two heads in the toolhead have separate Bowden tube paths and the AMS only has one exit path, I’m starting to wonder if each Bowden tube goes clear back to separate AMS’s or entry points (separate AMS 2 Pro, AMS HT, or reel)? As it is, it looks like a single AMS couldn’t print to both heads.
Anyone see something I’m missing or can think up what they may be doing?
If I’m right, I kinda like it. Seems like it would open up non-AMS filaments in to the automated process. Granted, it would mean one nozzle is dedicated to that material/color.
Based on a patent someone shared
I think it’ll be able to go to both.
1 Like
That’s a good point, I assumed that was just for the 4 way optional hub they have, but it could be a simple way to split the filament just before the nozzle.
Honestly… I prefer the way I was thinking of it, though. This will be a lot slower and more limiting. Not to mention more complexity for stuff to break.
1 Like
The idea would be more of you have them going to the same nozzle the whole print. E.g. AMS 2 PRO 1-4 go to E1, while AMS HT 1-8 go to E2. (at least I hope so! otherwise it’d be really slow)
Do we think the embargo on reviews ends at midmight tonight or at release tomorrow?
Would be nice to not have to worry about it selling out as I am watching reviews…